Unarmed teen shooting: the debate rages on...

[FBM]

I am so bored with the Zimmermans of the USA. Here is my last word on this particular nut.
http://teroreport.blogspot.com/2012/06/ ... ghbor.html

I just hope this thread lasts until the trial is over. Whoever wins, the shitstorm of 'I told you so! I told you so!' will be hilarious!

Told you so

(Too early. )

[mistermack]

I am so bored with the Zimmermans of the USA. Here is my last word on this particular nut.
http://teroreport.blogspot.com/2012/06/ ... ghbor.html

I just hope this thread lasts until the trial is over. Whoever wins, the shitstorm of 'I told you so! I told you so!' will be hilarious!

Told you so

(Too early. )

Nope. I told you, as did others, that Zimmerman had to be charged.

[FBM]

I am so bored with the Zimmermans of the USA. Here is my last word on this particular nut.
http://teroreport.blogspot.com/2012/06/ ... ghbor.html

I just hope this thread lasts until the trial is over. Whoever wins, the shitstorm of 'I told you so! I told you so!' will be hilarious!

Told you so

(Too early. )

Nope. I told you, as did others, that Zimmerman had to be charged.

(You think I'm actually reading this thread? ) IIRC, I agreed that he should have been kept in custody in the first place until a more thorough investigation was done. If that investigation turned up something substantial, he should've been charged immediately.

Anyway, just above, I was talking about when the final verdict is rendered.

[mistermack]

Zimmerman pretending to be black with that ridiculous fake tan is just one of his lies.
Here's some others :

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"I didn't know how old Martin was, I thought he was just slightly younger than me"
And yet he told the police operator that the person was a kid in his late teens.
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"I don't have any money". To the COURT at his bail hearing.
Yet he'd got $200,000 donated via his website
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"Martin jumped me from behind".
Yet Martin's girlfriend heard him say 'why are you following me' before sounds of a scuffle.
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Also the officer initially investigating found his replies to be not consistent with the facts.
Zimmerman's credibility as a truthful witness is shot. And as that's all he's got, it's not looking good for him.

[kiki5711]

I think it's his defense team that's gong to screw it up for him. Is there any plea bargain on the table as of now?

[Tyrannical]

It was well known on the news and should have been by the Judge that Zimmerman opened a paypal account for donations for a legal defense fund. Zimmerman was obviously not hiding what was so widely reported. In Zimmerman's mind, the money would be used to live off of legally and pay for lawyers. He can't hold down a job while living in fear, and he has a home mortgage and the expense from hiding in an undisclosed location and probably employing a bodyguard.

Zimmerman is so widely known that flight is impossible. There is no need for bail money

[kiki5711]

In Zimmerman's mind,

that's been the problem from the start now hasn't it? in certain situations you can't make such important decisions just cause you think you can. You need to ask if it's a good decision.

[Coito ergo sum]

I am so bored with the Zimmermans of the USA. Here is my last word on this particular nut.
http://teroreport.blogspot.com/2012/06/ ... ghbor.html

I just hope this thread lasts until the trial is over. Whoever wins, the shitstorm of 'I told you so! I told you so!' will be hilarious!

Even if he is found guilty, it does not mean that those who have been calling for his head on a platter since day one were not premature in their knee-jerk "fry him" judgments.

You and I, and some others, have only been suggesting that there is, at present, reasonable doubt, and that when all the evidence is in, we may see it a different way. As the evidence does come in, we may modify my assessment accordingly, and there is nothing negative about that. Even if ultimately we change our view to "guilty," that would not mean that those who took that position from the start have anything to be proud of.

[Coito ergo sum]

I am so bored with the Zimmermans of the USA. Here is my last word on this particular nut.
http://teroreport.blogspot.com/2012/06/ ... ghbor.html

I just hope this thread lasts until the trial is over. Whoever wins, the shitstorm of 'I told you so! I told you so!' will be hilarious!

Told you so

You can only say "I told you so" if you've been proven correct. A knee-jerk reaction that that the racist cops were derelict in their duty by not immediately arresting who you allege is a "gun nut" is not vindicated by a deliberate investigation continuing in due course and then a prosecutor issuing an arrest warrant based on probable cause.

[mistermack]

It was well known on the news and should have been by the Judge that Zimmerman opened a paypal account for donations for a legal defense fund. Zimmerman was obviously not hiding what was so widely reported.

Judge "what money have you got?"
Answer "none"
If ZIMMERMAN doesn't know, how come the judge should know?

Your logic wouldn't disgrace a fundie.

But the true answer is that zimmerman DID know, and conspired with his wife to hide the money.
That's the judge's fault, apparently.

Should Zimmerman get bail? Well, he's also lied about his second spare passport. Why would he do that, if he had no thought of running?

When Zimmerman surrendered his passport at his April 20 bond hearing, he did so knowing that he had a second unexpired passport, the prosecution also alleged.

In one recorded phone call from jail, the motion said Zimmerman told his wife he thought the passport was in a bag and she replied, "I have one for you in a safety deposit box."

"OK, you hold onto that," Zimmerman allegedly told her.

[Coito ergo sum]

Based on what the judge found in court, Zimmerman's bail was properly revoked. This is a big credibility issue for him in general. Although, the jury will never hear about it.

[FBM]

I am so bored with the Zimmermans of the USA. Here is my last word on this particular nut.
http://teroreport.blogspot.com/2012/06/ ... ghbor.html

I just hope this thread lasts until the trial is over. Whoever wins, the shitstorm of 'I told you so! I told you so!' will be hilarious!

Even if he is found guilty, it does not mean that those who have been calling for his head on a platter since day one were not premature in their knee-jerk "fry him" judgments.

You and I, and some others, have only been suggesting that there is, at present, reasonable doubt, and that when all the evidence is in, we may see it a different way. As the evidence does come in, we may modify my assessment accordingly, and there is nothing negative about that. Even if ultimately we change our view to "guilty," that would not mean that those who took that position from the start have anything to be proud of.

I totally agree, but that won't stop the chorus of "I told you so."

[mistermack]

I'm still convinced that Zimmerman was living out his fantasy of being a tough-guy hero, by killing a punk in self defence.

It made me wonder, if there are any self-defence serial killers out there?

After the Harold Shipman case in England, there is now a national check on all doctors, which monitors the number of deaths that they certify, for any suspicious patterns.

I think it would be a good idea for the US to have a register of self-defence shootings, to pick up anybody who is actually on the lookout for a chance to shoot someone and claim self-defence.

If Zimmerman gets off, that might be even more needed, as it would definitely encourage others.

[amused]

^^ Boys and their surrogate penises will always find a way to shoot it into somebody.

One of the tragic consequences of Needle Dick Syndrome.

[Tyrannical]

I'm still convinced that Zimmerman was living out his fantasy of being a tough-guy hero, by killing a punk in self defence.

It made me wonder, if there are any self-defence serial killers out there?

After the Harold Shipman case in England, there is now a national check on all doctors, which monitors the number of deaths that they certify, for any suspicious patterns.

I think it would be a good idea for the US to have a register of self-defence shootings, to pick up anybody who is actually on the lookout for a chance to shoot someone and claim self-defence.

If Zimmerman gets off, that might be even more needed, as it would definitely encourage others.

I can't think of any self-defense serial killers off of the top of my head

It would certainly be easy enough to pull off. Just walk in a "bad" neighborhood at night carrying a bag full of money. Those slut walk supporters think women should be able to dress anyway they want and walk any where they want at night, so it's the same principle. Then, like Bait Car wait for a bad criminal to strike, then make him "good"

There was a watchmaker that bagged five or six over three robbery attempts. Or maybe it was four robberies He ended up moving because of the revenge robberies, and he had been shot a few times.