If we were REALLY serious about saving the planet, we should do what China did.
Spread it right round the world. If you're going to have loads of kids, you have to pay the price.
What's more important? Freedoms today, or a viable planet for the next 100 years?
Right now, people obviously don't take the threat to the planet seriously, or they would be willing to give up having big families. So it's time for the law to take over, and remove ALL incentives to breed more than one child. ie, remove all state benefits over and above the amount for one. As a start.
Lets have a global "one child" policy
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Why do you think people are really serious about saving the planet?
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I'd vote for it. Wars are controlling the population like they used to.
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I think we out to have a 0.5 or less child policy. Random dice roll decides who gets to reproduce and who doesn't.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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I remember a movie about a twenty year hiatus on child birth.
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I still think couples who want to have a child should be required to take classes and pass a test (or series of tests) similar to getting a driving license, only harder. Maybe include a certain number of public service hours in a local daycare or orphanage.
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Anybody see the Start Trek TNG episode where the Enterprise hosts a scientist from a planet whose culture expects everyone to ritualistically commit suicide when they reach age 60? Something like that might help. Maybe when we get to age 75 we could be expected to go jump off a cliff. The US spends about two and a half times as much on eldery people as it does on children. By the time you're in your 70s, you're just sucking up medical costs and pensions.
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Well, that would be blasted as age discrimination. Let's just have a lottery, kinda like the draft. When your number comes up, you get to sleep with the fishes. The oceans are being depleted, anyway. Feed the fish. 
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Paging Shirley Jackson... paging Shirley Jackson...FBM wrote:Well, that would be blasted as age discrimination. Let's just have a lottery, kinda like the draft. When your number comes up, you get to sleep with the fishes. The oceans are being depleted, anyway. Feed the fish.
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Not necessary, there will be a Malthusian solution soon, very soon.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Why not remove the state benefits for the first child as well? It's simpler and you're more likely to average just one child that way.mistermack wrote:Right now, people obviously don't take the threat to the planet seriously, or they would be willing to give up having big families. So it's time for the law to take over, and remove ALL incentives to breed more than one child. ie, remove all state benefits over and above the amount for one. As a start.
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Re: Lets have a global "one child" policy
The trouble with this is that it would require universal consent
and any one with a knowledge of the workings of the United
Nations knows how impossible that is to achieve : think it
is the most serious issue affecting the planet but simple
solutions to complex problems rarely work : the other
tricky thing is that it has to be ongoing : is no good
if one generation achieves this impossible task if
the next one then reverses it again : far better
way of tackling this is the mass education of
women for those that are statistically have
fewer children : that to me seems a much
more practical and achievable aim than
the enforced global contraception idea
and any one with a knowledge of the workings of the United
Nations knows how impossible that is to achieve : think it
is the most serious issue affecting the planet but simple
solutions to complex problems rarely work : the other
tricky thing is that it has to be ongoing : is no good
if one generation achieves this impossible task if
the next one then reverses it again : far better
way of tackling this is the mass education of
women for those that are statistically have
fewer children : that to me seems a much
more practical and achievable aim than
the enforced global contraception idea
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I say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Re: Lets have a global "one child" policy
Ever see Logan's Run?Ian wrote:Anybody see the Start Trek TNG episode where the Enterprise hosts a scientist from a planet whose culture expects everyone to ritualistically commit suicide when they reach age 60? Something like that might help. Maybe when we get to age 75 we could be expected to go jump off a cliff. The US spends about two and a half times as much on eldery people as it does on children. By the time you're in your 70s, you're just sucking up medical costs and pensions.
Super-brilliant, right?
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Re: Lets have a global "one child" policy
Or Blade Runner where one automatically goes at
thirty : just make sure their desire to out live
them selves is not so great they will do any
thing in pursuit of this unanticipated goal
Best thing is not to think too much as it
is thinking too much that is the cause
of all the problems in the first place
thirty : just make sure their desire to out live
them selves is not so great they will do any
thing in pursuit of this unanticipated goal
Best thing is not to think too much as it
is thinking too much that is the cause
of all the problems in the first place
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