Aircraft Carriers - SO Twentieth Century...

[Rum]

When I was a kid of around 14 the UK Carrier Ark Royal cruised into Hong Kong harbour and my dad, being a senior police officer and all was invited on board and took me with him. It was an amazing experience and I can stil remember it vividly. It was like exploring a floating city.

That was decades ago. What the big fuckoff Merican ones are like I can only guess!

[Thumpalumpacus]

My prediction is aircraft-carrying subs. Just big enough to carry one or two jets with vertical takeoff.

Can't imagine why nobody's thought of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400_class_submarine

That, and the Surcouf.

They didn't work at the time though.

True enough. Not only were the planes relatively impotent in the attack role, the launch and recovery cycles destroyed the only real advantage submarines have by forcing it to surface.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

When I was a kid of around 14 the UK Carrier Ark Royal cruised into Hong Kong harbour and my dad, being a senior police officer and all was invited on board and took me with him. It was an amazing experience and I can stil remember it vividly. It was like exploring a floating city.

That was decades ago. What the big fuckoff Merican ones are like I can only guess!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

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[klr]

50-cals as part of the standard CIWS fit?

Maybe for defence against Somali pirates ...

[Svartalf]

I predict the future of warfare is giant semi-organic Mecha each which houses a dysfunctional 14 year old Japanese child who control them from within.

Bender's Game.

Nah, the plot of NGE and several other ridiculous manga and anime.

and for countless porn books and films where the way to maintain the kids more or less functional is to bang them, or to savagely abuse them to give them fighting spirit.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

50-cals as part of the standard CIWS fit?

Maybe for defence against Somali pirates ...

Right in one. We went above the 38th Parallel on the west side of Korea once, and had no protection against small craft other than some M60s. The attack in Yemen woke them up to that hole in their defenses.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

and for countless porn books and films where the way to maintain the kids more or less functional is to bang them, or to savagely abuse them to give them fighting spirit.

Okay, so the French army sucks. I was never abused, nor did I allow abuse, in twenty years in the United States Navy. My brother did 28 years in the USAF, same story. Being a 4F has made you a bit grumpy I think.

[klr]

50-cals as part of the standard CIWS fit?

Maybe for defence against Somali pirates ...

Right in one. We went above the 38th Parallel on the west side of Korea once, and had no protection against small craft other than some M60s. The attack in Yemen woke them up to that hole in their defenses.

During the Falklands War, some RN ships were reduced to using general-purpose (rifle calibre) machine guns in improvised mounts, as in free-standing. Once an Argentine Skyhawk had gotten past the Sea Harriers and the SAMs, the ships had hardly any suitable small-caliber cannons or machine guns mounted for close-in defence, to say nothing of fire control systems. A late-WW II destroyer or cruiser would probably have been much better better equipped in that respect, with plenty of 40-mm and 20-mm class weapons.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

50-cals as part of the standard CIWS fit?

Maybe for defence against Somali pirates ...

Right in one. We went above the 38th Parallel on the west side of Korea once, and had no protection against small craft other than some M60s. The attack in Yemen woke them up to that hole in their defenses.

During the Falklands War, some RN ships were reduced to using general-purpose (rifle calibre) machine guns in improvised mounts, as in free-standing. Once an Argentine Skyhawk had gotten past the Sea Harriers and the SAMs, the ships had hardly any suitable small-caliber cannons or machine guns mounted for close-in defence, to say nothing of fire control systems. A late-WW II destroyer or cruiser would probably have been much better better equipped in that respect, with plenty of 40-mm and 20-mm class weapons.

Prolly.

[klr]

First batch Atlanta class. That's cheating.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

First batch Atlanta class. That's cheating.

Did you expect less?

Anyway, that's a stretched DD hull, IIRC. So technically...

[klr]

First batch Atlanta class. That's cheating.

Did you expect less?

Anyway, that's a stretched DD hull, IIRC. So technically...

That's why they sank so easily at Guadalcanal.

Anyway, the moral of the story is that you can't wish something in or out of fashion. Reality has a habit of getting in the way.

[Svartalf]

and for countless porn books and films where the way to maintain the kids more or less functional is to bang them, or to savagely abuse them to give them fighting spirit.

Okay, so the French army sucks. I was never abused, nor did I allow abuse, in twenty years in the United States Navy. My brother did 28 years in the USAF, same story. Being a 4F has made you a bit grumpy I think.

Nothing to do with my views of how we handled conscription... I successfully summarized a fulle 75% of the hentai stuff derived from NGE and similar series.

[Ian]

Just thought I'd post something cool...