Moral Crimes ??

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Re: Moral Crimes ??

Post by Tyrannical » Thu May 24, 2012 6:33 pm

Hermit wrote:
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Tyrannical wrote:Tranny is just an insult.
Depends. Triodes in the form of vacuum tubes were around since 1907. They were bulky, consumed a lot of power, but very useful in the electronics industry, particularly so in radios. By the sixties they had evolved into solid-state devices called transistors - a contraction of the term 'transfer resistor'. These things were so cheap, tiny, economic and robust that it became possible to mass produce quite small radios that ran on a set of batteries for hours and could easily be taken to picnics, parties or wherever. Every juvenile seemed to have one, but nobody could be bothered to say "I'll bring my transistor radio along then" or "I need new batteries for my transistor radio." "Transistor radio" was contracted to "tranny." Your bleatings remind me of the sort of stuff I heard in the sixties over the tranny. So, as I said, Tranny, think of it as poetic license.
After I explicitly mention that I don't appreciate being called that, you continue to do so. Are you really going to force me to report your actions to a moderator or will you just agree to behave yourself?
Look, I can't be arsed typing out "transistor radio" every time I'm referring to you. The contraction to "Tranny" will just have to do, and it's not really all that insulting for that reason, Tranny.
I already told you the three letterer abbreviation Tyr is acceptable.
We both know how the moderation staff would rule, so why press the point? I am asking politely after all.
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Post by Rum » Thu May 24, 2012 6:43 pm

Tranny seems to be getting his knickers in a twist.

..appropriately enough. :hehe:

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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 24, 2012 7:10 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
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Tyrannical wrote::evil: Tranny is NOT a proper abbreviation of my name. Tyr is the ironic though acceptable alternative.
Looks like your ankles are so swollen you can go through doors only sideways... which is Ironic since Tyr's name is prounounced the same as the german word for a door (leading me to wonder if he was a god of doorways as well as war, as well as the former leader of the Aesir, before the Sorcerer King's worshippers won out)
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The ironic abbreviation Tyr is the Norse god who put his hand in Feneris mouth to shackle him. Tyrannical is of course from the Greek tyrannos, which represented the middle-class taking power from the unjust nobility.
Tranny is just an insult.
Begging pardon, but with the notable exception of Peisistratos of Athens, most recorded tyrants precisely earned the name its current (since antiquity) connotations. Better be ruled by Pericles or Themistocles or Leonidas than by the 30 tyrants or Dionysos of Syracusae.
Tyrannies were simply an early experiment with Republicanism, and it should not be surprising that the monarchies would have disapproved and maligned the title of Tyrant.
Funny when you notice how early 'republics' basically circumvented power of the common people through a carefully maintained system of personal ties between aristocrats and freemen, turning the latter into the formers' clients... or the fact that State power was effectively private, with law enforcement left to who could get it enforced and could, and armies generally serving their generals/chiefs personally rather than the state as a commonwealth.

and tyrannies never experimented with republicanism in the first place, they just replaced traditional aristocrats with official 'rights' to the throne or rule with new men who had no such recognized claims, but took power anyway, through force of arms, or fear, or demagoguery...
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu May 24, 2012 7:30 pm

Funny when you notice how early 'republics' basically circumvented power of the common people through a carefully maintained system of personal ties between aristocrats and freemen, turning the latter into the formers' clients... or the fact that State power was effectively private, with law enforcement left to who could get it enforced and could, and armies generally serving their generals/chiefs personally rather than the state as a commonwealth.

and tyrannies never experimented with republicanism in the first place, they just replaced traditional aristocrats with official 'rights' to the throne or rule with new men who had no such recognized claims, but took power anyway, through force of arms, or fear, or demagoguery...[/quote]

Funny how you think that a hereditary monarchy didn't do the same thing. At least the Tyrants had to convince people to support themselves through means other than presumed divinity. But I suppose I just prefer Spartan Republicanism over Athenian Democracy.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 24, 2012 8:20 pm

Hereditary monarchies never claimed to be other than aristocratic in nature, even if some long established states came to be regarded as greater entities than just the personal domains of the reigning dynasty... took quite some time though before a Bourguignon or Gascon admitted they had an identity as French folk (that is, subjects of the King of France rather than of their local provincial lord), or for that matter for a MacDonald to admit that banding under the banner of the King of Scotland was more important than their traditional feuds with the McLeods, McDougalls and Campbells.

Hereditary monarchies are just a simplified form of older aristocratic/patrician rule, and aristocrats were not traditionally invested by divine right, even though they did tend to invent themselves mythological connections (notice how many great families of classical greece were supposed to be descended from Hercules? how the Julii played up their supposed descent from Venus and the Trojans until Virgil pushed it beyond the brim of ridicule with his shamelessly pandering Aeneid?), they usually happened to be the biggest landowners in the area ... tyrannies, usually seized riches from their previous owners if they lacked adequate means to support themselves... and Spartan was about as Republican as popes were Jewish... Kings and members of the council of geronts always came from the same small number of families... and as for divine right, their hidebound conservatism in sticking to the laws of Lycourgos seems more like obeying religious laws than the Athenians, who at least appointed Solon to amend the excessively harsh laws of Dracon.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu May 24, 2012 10:03 pm

What happened to the topic? :dunno:
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Post by Svartalf » Thu May 24, 2012 10:06 pm

It got hijacked and is on its way to Cuba as we post.
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Re: Moral Crimes ??

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri May 25, 2012 12:39 am

Human Rights Watch wrote:Afghanistan: Hundreds of Women, Girls Jailed for "Moral Crimes"

March 28, 2012

(Kabul) – The Afghan government should release the approximately 400 women and girls imprisoned in Afghanistan for “moral crimes,” Human Rights Watch said in a new report released today. The United States and other donor countries should press the Afghan government under President Hamid Karzai to end the wrongful imprisonment of women and girls who are crime victims rather than criminals.

The 120-page report, “‘I Had to Run Away’: Women and Girls Imprisoned for ‘Moral Crimes’ in Afghanistan,” is based on 58 interviews conducted in three prisons and three juvenile detention facilities with women and girls accused of “moral crimes.” Almost all girls in juvenile detention in Afghanistan had been arrested for “moral crimes,” while about half of women in Afghan prisons were arrested on these charges. These “crimes” usually involve flight from unlawful forced marriage or domestic violence. Some women and girls have been convicted of zina, sex outside of marriage, after being raped or forced into prostitution.

“It is shocking that 10 years after the overthrow of the Taliban, women and girls are still imprisoned for running away from domestic violence or forced marriage,” said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch. “No one should be locked up for fleeing a dangerous situation even if it’s at home. President Karzai and Afghanistan’s allies should act decisively to end this abusive and discriminatory practice.” ...

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Post by JimC » Fri May 25, 2012 8:52 am

Existence is a crime against entropy...
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Post by Svartalf » Fri May 25, 2012 1:30 pm

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