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Post by mistermack » Mon May 14, 2012 4:30 pm

FBM wrote: I'm not sure if I know or not; just wondering if you do. If you're claiming that everyone who pursues a martial art to an advanced level is an "unbalanced wanker", then you're calling me, Mysturji and probably a few others unbalanced wankers. Is this what you intended?
Are you mad for it?
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Post by FBM » Mon May 14, 2012 4:59 pm

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FBM wrote: I'm not sure if I know or not; just wondering if you do. If you're claiming that everyone who pursues a martial art to an advanced level is an "unbalanced wanker", then you're calling me, Mysturji and probably a few others unbalanced wankers. Is this what you intended?
Are you mad for it?
Am I mad for what? Hapkido or your potential blanket insult?
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Post by Seabass » Mon May 14, 2012 5:15 pm

Audley Strange wrote: but really the person keeping this european/american divide going is you and Seth.
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Post by mistermack » Mon May 14, 2012 5:22 pm

FBM wrote:
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FBM wrote: I'm not sure if I know or not; just wondering if you do. If you're claiming that everyone who pursues a martial art to an advanced level is an "unbalanced wanker", then you're calling me, Mysturji and probably a few others unbalanced wankers. Is this what you intended?
Are you mad for it?
Am I mad for what? Hapkido or your potential blanket insult?
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Post by Robert_S » Mon May 14, 2012 10:51 pm

Mistermack, how would you characterize "mad for it" in this context? How much do they have to be into it before they cross the line into madnes. I don't think anyone here is saying that those who insult the martial arts need to be executed for example.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by maiforpeace » Mon May 14, 2012 11:02 pm

FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:
FBM wrote: I'm not sure if I know or not; just wondering if you do. If you're claiming that everyone who pursues a martial art to an advanced level is an "unbalanced wanker", then you're calling me, Mysturji and probably a few others unbalanced wankers. Is this what you intended?
Are you mad for it?
Am I mad for what?
Yes, I didn't even understand what you were trying to say, Mistermack.

No offense, but you seem to be lumping anything that has to do with self defense as being offensive...I understand your aversion to it (offensive behavior), but now you are coming off a bit as unbalanced.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon May 14, 2012 11:07 pm

"Mad for it" was asking if FBM was a serious martial artist or a Chuck Norris wannabee. Being mad for it would be a bad thing.
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Post by Robert_S » Mon May 14, 2012 11:12 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:"Mad for it" was asking if FBM was a serious martial artist or a Chuck Norris wannabee. Being mad for it would be a bad thing.
I've only heard "mad for it" in a context where it seemed to mean "likes it a lot" and not in any kind of really negative way.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon May 14, 2012 11:16 pm

1. mad for it 56 up, 10 down

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Post by mistermack » Mon May 14, 2012 11:28 pm

Robert_S wrote:Mistermack, how would you characterize "mad for it" in this context? How much do they have to be into it before they cross the line into madnes. I don't think anyone here is saying that those who insult the martial arts need to be executed for example.
Firstly, I can't believe some people take it so seriously.
Surely martial-arts people, of any group, should know that it's sticks and stones that break bones. And words can never hurt them. They claim that they have a heightened awareness of that, but don't show any sign of it.
Nor any sign of the increased ability to walk away from trouble. If a perceived slight on a chat site gets them so hot under the collar.

My offending post was :
mistermack wrote:I made the point earlier that there would be nothing wrong with martial arts, if it was sound, sensible, balanced people who took it up. The problem is that it's always the unbalanced wankers who go mad for it.
Now why would the Home Secretary ban the guy, if it was just sound, sensible people who took it up?
Does she do these things for fun? Do they piss themselves laughing in the Home Office, when they ban someone? Or is there a GOOD reason that I've somehow missed?

This country bans carrying guns. Why would they, if it was sound, sensible people who carried them?
They ban them because of unbalanced wankers getting hold of them.

Or is there something ELSE I've missed?
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Post by Robert_S » Mon May 14, 2012 11:49 pm

You put a lot of trust in your government to know who is sound and sensible and who is an unbalanced wanker. And what about the sound and sensible wankers? Who'll speak up for them?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by mistermack » Tue May 15, 2012 12:07 am

Robert_S wrote:You put a lot of trust in your government to know who is sound and sensible and who is an unbalanced wanker.
We all pay the price, heaped on us by wankers. That's an unfortunate fact of life. We all pay for locks on our cars, houses, because of wankers.
No, our government CAN'T tell who is sound. I would like them to do their best though.
There is no human right for foreigners to visit the UK. It's a privilege our government may grant or refuse as they choose. This guy was refused, because his "art" is likely to appeal to unbalanced wankers.
Robert_S wrote: And what about the sound and sensible wankers? Who'll speak up for them?
Nobody's being found guilty here. Nobody's locked up. They just didn't get an entry visa to a foreign country.
It happens all the time.
We sound and sensible wankers suffer some inconvenience because of unbalanced wankers.
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Post by Robert_S » Tue May 15, 2012 12:49 am

What do you mean "we"???
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by FBM » Tue May 15, 2012 7:45 am

Interesting timing. A few nights ago, a Korean friend of mine was telling my Canadian friend's fiancee some things about me. He said that most expats easily get into fights when Koreans insult them (which happens often enough when they're drunk). But, my friend said, even though I speak Korean well enough to understand the insults and have a 3rd degree black belt in Hapkido, I just ignore the insults and show no sign of being affected by them at all. What a wacko I must be!! :wacky:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue May 15, 2012 7:51 am

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