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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sun May 13, 2012 10:24 pm

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That's such fucking nonsense, and if a Brit is not upset about this law, then I don't want to here fuck-all from that Brit about American immigration laws. No room to talk. Your fucking government doesn't have even claim that the person would AGAINST the public good, or "harmful" in any way, or that the advocate unlawful violence, or that they want to incite anything. All you have to do is have some fucking bureaucrat say the is not "conducive" to public good. LOL. What a joke.

And, did you ever listen to the Muslim immigrants you have ranting all over your fucking island? I mean, those guys ADVOCATE killing people in the name of Allah. No biggie. This guy says "innnocent people should be able to defend themselves, even with martial art techniques that hurt their attackers" and you ban the guy for not being "conducive to the public good."

Christ on a flippin' bicycle....

Man you do go on about this. I think you miss the point. We've known our Governments are a bad fucking joke for a long time, we just LOVE that in the U.S. people don't seem to get that yours have been too and for a lot of people in Europe they like to wind you up about it because the more you defend a system by comparing it favourably to ours the funnier it is. It's like your saying "Oh yeah, well your shit has more flies on it, so there!"

I suppose it's a form of trolling.

As for the law, I think we'd be more upset if we actually were dumb enough to have faith in the corporate P.R. agents we vote in.
We don't get that our government is a bad fucking joke? Being distrustful of government and vehemently opposed to what it does is part of the American culture. You're suggesting that Americans don't get that their government does fucked up things? I mean, on other threads, we get lectured by Yerpeeins about how you all are so enlightened in that you trust your government to do the right thing. Now, it's you think your governments are fucked up, and the Americans that don't?

It becomes tiresome to hear the neverending mantra about how US immigration law is so unfair. Then we get something like this about the UK, and it's phrased, of course, that the American, who had done nothing wrong, is the problem, not the arbitrary British immigration rule? Had this been an American law at issue, the thread would have been "Merka denies entry to innocent person for espousing the wrong opinion" or something like that and we'd be banging on about how the US immigration system is something out of the 19th century.

The point is, Yerpeeins don't seem to to see the problems with their own governments, or at least if they do, they don't talk about them. We get endless discussions of the minutia of American law, but if anything is brought up about UK law, it's like "oh, well, no need to discuss that - we know our laws are fucked up." Great response.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sun May 13, 2012 10:25 pm

amused wrote:Now, can we get the US gun nuts banned from the US? :bored:
You're asking for Gawdzilla and Gallstones to be banned from the US?

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Post by Robert_S » Sun May 13, 2012 10:31 pm

I'm a gun nut, if you define gun nut as someone who doesn't poop their pants at the prospect that someone outside of the government might have them.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Svartalf » Sun May 13, 2012 10:35 pm

That definition makes ME a gun nut, and I'd never even claim expertise, let alone the amount of nerdness or obsession needed to be a "nut".
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Post by amused » Sun May 13, 2012 11:06 pm

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amused wrote:Now, can we get the US gun nuts banned from the US? :bored:
You're asking for Gawdzilla and Gallstones to be banned from the US?
I'm thinking, I'm thinking! :biggrin:

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun May 13, 2012 11:58 pm

Svartalf wrote:That definition makes ME a gun nut, and I'd never even claim expertise, let alone the amount of nerdness or obsession needed to be a "nut".
I think "just plain nuts" would work better for you. :tup:
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amused wrote:Now, can we get the US gun nuts banned from the US? :bored:
You're asking for Gawdzilla and Gallstones to be banned from the US?
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Post by amused » Mon May 14, 2012 12:09 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Svartalf wrote:That definition makes ME a gun nut, and I'd never even claim expertise, let alone the amount of nerdness or obsession needed to be a "nut".
I think "just plain nuts" would work better for you. :tup:
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amused wrote:Now, can we get the US gun nuts banned from the US? :bored:
You're asking for Gawdzilla and Gallstones to be banned from the US?
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Post by Svartalf » Mon May 14, 2012 7:54 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Svartalf wrote:That definition makes ME a gun nut, and I'd never even claim expertise, let alone the amount of nerdness or obsession needed to be a "nut".
I think "just plain nuts" would work better for you. :tup:.
C'mon, make it at least salty nuts, as the actress said to the bishop.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon May 14, 2012 2:14 pm

mistermack wrote:In fact, Americans are of course entitled to criticise appeasement, but they should bear in mind that that's exactly what THEIR country did as well.
The only difference is that American appeasement lasted two years longer than British appeasement.
Well you continue to pontificate from your rectum on this topic?
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Post by FBM » Mon May 14, 2012 3:33 pm

mistermack wrote:...it's always the unbalanced wankers who go mad for it...
Tautology 101, aka: No shit, Sherlock.

mistermack, like I said earlier, I got a 3rd degree black belt in Hapkido here in Korea. Am I included in your charge of being an "unbalanced wanker"? :tea:
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Post by mistermack » Mon May 14, 2012 3:57 pm

FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:...it's always the unbalanced wankers who go mad for it...
Tautology 101, aka: No shit, Sherlock.

mistermack, like I said earlier, I got a 3rd degree black belt in Hapkido here in Korea. Am I included in your charge of being an "unbalanced wanker"? :tea:
Are you mad for it?
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Post by FBM » Mon May 14, 2012 4:04 pm

mistermack wrote:
FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:...it's always the unbalanced wankers who go mad for it...
Tautology 101, aka: No shit, Sherlock.

mistermack, like I said earlier, I got a 3rd degree black belt in Hapkido here in Korea. Am I included in your charge of being an "unbalanced wanker"? :tea:
Are you mad for it?
Are all martial artists "mad" for their martial art? Does pursuing it to an advanced level define one as "mad" for it, and therefore, by your assertion, define them as "unbalanced wankers"?
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Post by mistermack » Mon May 14, 2012 4:20 pm

FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:
FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:...it's always the unbalanced wankers who go mad for it...
Tautology 101, aka: No shit, Sherlock.

mistermack, like I said earlier, I got a 3rd degree black belt in Hapkido here in Korea. Am I included in your charge of being an "unbalanced wanker"? :tea:
Are you mad for it?
Are all martial artists "mad" for their martial art? Does pursuing it to an advanced level define one as "mad" for it, and therefore, by your assertion, define them as "unbalanced wankers"?
Don't you know?
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Audley Strange » Mon May 14, 2012 4:24 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
We don't get that our government is a bad fucking joke? Being distrustful of government and vehemently opposed to what it does is part of the American culture. You're suggesting that Americans don't get that their government does fucked up things?
Considering the amount of effort you go to to defend shitty policies by going "Look teh Yerpeeins do it to." I'm suggesting you don't. Perhaps it's that exceptionalism thing you know all that "USA USA!!" hooting and "We're Number one" and all that shit. People like to deflate braggarts.
Coito ergo sum wrote: I mean, on other threads, we get lectured by Yerpeeins about how you all are so enlightened in that you trust your government to do the right thing. Now, it's you think your governments are fucked up, and the Americans that don't?
Well I certainly can't claim that we trust our governments, I don't know any who do, though I haven't read every post. Certainly there is one poster who has an obvious anti-American bias, but really the person keeping this european/american divide going is you and Seth.
Coito ergo sum wrote: It becomes tiresome to hear the neverending mantra about how US immigration law is so unfair. Then we get something like this about the UK, and it's phrased, of course, that the American, who had done nothing wrong, is the problem, not the arbitrary British immigration rule? Had this been an American law at issue, the thread would have been "Merka denies entry to innocent person for espousing the wrong opinion" or something like that and we'd be banging on about how the US immigration system is something out of the 19th century.
The ONLY person I see regularly bleating about U.S. immigration is you, a lot, usually as an example of the hypocrisy of Europeans. I understand that it is tough being the Evil Empire, but you have to accept that like the English still, almost every nation tends to hate you and looks for any excuse to undermine you. If you are expecting people not to be hypocrites then too bad. If it's tiresome stop prating on about it.
Coito ergo sum wrote: The point is, Yerpeeins don't seem to to see the problems with their own governments, or at least if they do, they don't talk about them. We get endless discussions of the minutia of American law, but if anything is brought up about UK law, it's like "oh, well, no need to discuss that - we know our laws are fucked up." Great response.
Those endless discussions tend to be between you and Seth who I'm led to believe are not Europeans. It seems to me that you get indignant that others complain about your nation and then attempt to respond in kind. If you really think you're government are a bad joke, join the party rather than defend the cunts.
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Post by FBM » Mon May 14, 2012 4:26 pm

mistermack wrote:
FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:
FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:...it's always the unbalanced wankers who go mad for it...
Tautology 101, aka: No shit, Sherlock.

mistermack, like I said earlier, I got a 3rd degree black belt in Hapkido here in Korea. Am I included in your charge of being an "unbalanced wanker"? :tea:
Are you mad for it?
Are all martial artists "mad" for their martial art? Does pursuing it to an advanced level define one as "mad" for it, and therefore, by your assertion, define them as "unbalanced wankers"?
Don't you know?
I'm not sure if I know or not; just wondering if you do. If you're claiming that everyone who pursues a martial art to an advanced level is an "unbalanced wanker", then you're calling me, Mysturji and probably a few others unbalanced wankers. Is this what you intended?
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