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Post by Thumpalumpacus » Fri May 11, 2012 4:56 am

I'm afraid to disagree with that. :yes:
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Audley Strange » Fri May 11, 2012 5:39 am

Robert_S wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Robert_S wrote:Look at the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-wjxwpvqps

Doesn't look like he's joking to me.
That's because you're American. Americans don't do subtle humour.

They can't even spell it.
Can I get any non-Merkin members to vouch for this?
No you can't. In fact he's talking out his arse. though it is true you can't spell humour.
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Robert_S » Fri May 11, 2012 10:56 am

Audley Strange wrote:though it is true you can't spell humour.
The hell I can't: Houmer... Hummer... Huemore... Shit :sadcheer:
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by mistermack » Fri May 11, 2012 11:56 am

How do you get an American to laugh on a monday?

Tell him a subtle joke on a friday..

No, I'm not going to explain it.
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Mysturji » Fri May 11, 2012 1:44 pm

mistermack wrote:
Mysturji wrote: Any idiot can buy a gun and shoot someone, or leave it lying around for their kids to play with.
Learning a martial art to a reasonable standard takes years of hard work, dedication and discipline, during which time one develops a deep understanding of just how fragile the Human body is, and how precious life is. This instills a sense of respect for one's fellow humans, a reluctance to resort to violence (except if/when necessary) and the confidence to refrain from violence when fear might otherwise prompt them into doing something rash.
Spot the difference.
And an irresistible urge to bang on about it and mention one's martial art when nobody's asked.

I seem to have managed to pick up most of those attributes and understandings without dressing like a prick, and needing to tell everybody.
I feel I'm confident enough to refrain from violence tonight, grasshopper. It's the wisdom of the Guinness that guides me safely.
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You are ignorant about this topic.
Nothing wrong with that, except that you are INTENTIONALLY and WILLFULLY ignorant.
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Mysturji » Fri May 11, 2012 1:46 pm

MrJonno wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Mysturji wrote: So what part of "self defence" do you not understand? "Self", or "defence"?
What I do understand, is that I'm over sixty, and I haven't needed "self defence" since I was a child.
When we were children, we used to "self defend" all the time. But I and the people I know grew out of it.

Some people never grow up.
If you go around thinking about self defence there is either something seriously wrong with you or something seriously screwed up in your society (good reason to move)
You're not even wrong.
If you go around judging people's hobbies like some deluded self-righteous twit, there is either something seriously wrong with you or something seriously screwed up in your world view.
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Thumpalumpacus » Fri May 11, 2012 4:05 pm

mistermack wrote:How do you get an American to laugh on a monday?

Tell him a subtle joke on a friday..

No, I'm not going to explain it.
mistermack wrote:Ok, I'm sorry I took exception to a statement made in jest.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri May 11, 2012 9:03 pm

It must be a lonely place in your head, Seth.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri May 11, 2012 9:11 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:It must be a lonely place in your head, Seth.
deserted mmore like, nobody's at home.
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by MrJonno » Fri May 11, 2012 9:32 pm

Apparently he thinks he comes across as non-psychotic in real life!
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri May 11, 2012 9:49 pm

MrJonno wrote:I feel safer already

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18002220
A spokeswoman said: "The home secretary will seek to exclude an individual if she considers that his or her presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good."
Let's analyze the reactions to the British immigration policy, and compare to the reactions we get to American immigration policy. I guarantee that Yerpeeins will, by and large, see this kind of a rule as absolutely reasonable and right.

Imagine if the US created such a vague and arbitrary rule. "not conducive to the public good" and you can't come to the United States. The outrage, we all know, would be palpable. Fuck - according to most of the Yerpeeins, we can't even ask for fucking identification, and we need to extend them public benefits, pay for their college education, and give them driving licenses.

What does this fella do: " He teaches self-defence techniques, "

LOL -- so, it is "not conducive to the public good" to have a trained Navy Seal teach people how to fend off attackers.

Go fuck yourself, British Home Office. The guy is there to give a seminar, and you ban him for not being conducive to the public good.

That's such fucking nonsense, and if a Brit is not upset about this law, then I don't want to here fuck-all from that Brit about American immigration laws. No room to talk. Your fucking government doesn't have even claim that the person would AGAINST the public good, or "harmful" in any way, or that the advocate unlawful violence, or that they want to incite anything. All you have to do is have some fucking bureaucrat say the is not "conducive" to public good. LOL. What a joke.

And, did you ever listen to the Muslim immigrants you have ranting all over your fucking island? I mean, those guys ADVOCATE killing people in the name of Allah. No biggie. This guy says "innnocent people should be able to defend themselves, even with martial art techniques that hurt their attackers" and you ban the guy for not being "conducive to the public good."

Christ on a flippin' bicycle....

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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Animavore » Fri May 11, 2012 9:55 pm

I'm sure there's more to it than that.
Isn't there?
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Robert_S » Fri May 11, 2012 9:58 pm

Aren't there gays who are joining the BNP because they are getting harassed? What does that say about UK attitudes toward self defense?

To me it suggests that there's been a confusion somewhere about being anti-violence in general and being a pacifist fundamentalist.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Robert_S » Fri May 11, 2012 9:59 pm

Animavore wrote:I'm sure there's more to it than that.
Isn't there?
The correct assumption that others will make that dubious assumption.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: US Self Defence nut gets banned from the UK

Post by Animavore » Fri May 11, 2012 10:11 pm

Seems to me he's advocating offensive techniques designed to fuck people up if they try attack you.


Nothing wrong with that. It's better than risking yourself in an untrained scuffle or brawl which can lead to your untimely death. We were always trained that it's better to be able to fuck the other guy up quickly without losing energy and get out of there.

Although... My teacher was a psycho.
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