Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Mon May 07, 2012 2:47 am

Svartalf wrote:I didn't invent it saw it written enough that the current Irish official one never took hold
I'm sure you did see it written enough - by Scottish people.
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Svartalf » Mon May 07, 2012 8:07 am

When I'm writing in Irish, I'll mind Irish spelling... Given that I haven't been practicing that since like 1990... rough estimate is 'fat chance'.
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by kiki5711 » Mon May 07, 2012 9:36 am

I had some delicious pork chops last night. No way in hell I'm giving up that, or bacon for that matter for a religion that's shitties religion on the planet. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Svartalf » Mon May 07, 2012 9:49 am

... too bad I can't afford a bacon burger at the diner across the corner.
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Tyrannical » Mon May 07, 2012 5:59 pm

Libya sent money to the IRA back in the 80's, so there has been a connection for a long time.
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Robert_S » Mon May 07, 2012 7:03 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Libya sent money to the IRA back in the 80's, so there has been a connection for a long time.
Accepting funding for the IRA 20 odd years ago is one thing. Attacking New York is something completely different.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Tyrannical » Mon May 07, 2012 7:06 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Libya sent money to the IRA back in the 80's, so there has been a connection for a long time.
Accepting funding for the IRA 20 odd years ago is one thing. Attacking New York is something completely different.
I assumed the funding and support was more or less continuous, and it was closer to thirty years.
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Robert_S » Mon May 07, 2012 7:18 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Libya sent money to the IRA back in the 80's, so there has been a connection for a long time.
Accepting funding for the IRA 20 odd years ago is one thing. Attacking New York is something completely different.
I assumed the funding and support was more or less continuous, and it was closer to thirty years.
I just looked it up, so "The troubles" ended in 2001ish. I stopped hearing about it back in the early '90s.

That's not the main point though. I suspect there's lots of Irish in New York who'd be a little peeved about Ireland supporting Al Quaida.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by klr » Mon May 07, 2012 8:03 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Libya sent money to the IRA back in the 80's, so there has been a connection for a long time.
Accepting funding for the IRA 20 odd years ago is one thing. Attacking New York is something completely different.
I assumed the funding and support was more or less continuous, and it was closer to thirty years.
I just looked it up, so "The troubles" ended in 2001ish. I stopped hearing about it back in the early '90s.

That's not the main point though. I suspect there's lots of Irish in New York who'd be a little peeved about Ireland supporting Al Quaida.
As in, "at least 99% of them".

And yes, the troubles have been on the back burner for more than a decade or more, hopefully never to return.
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Robert_S » Mon May 07, 2012 8:10 pm

klr wrote:And yes, the troubles have been on the back burner for more than a decade or more, hopefully never to return.
I still don't know what to make of calling that "The Troubles".
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by klr » Mon May 07, 2012 8:14 pm

Robert_S wrote:
klr wrote:And yes, the troubles have been on the back burner for more than a decade or more, hopefully never to return.
I still don't know what to make of calling that "The Troubles".
You're not the only one. :hehe:

We called WW II "The Emergency", as we were officially neutral.

It's just an Irish thing. :pardon:
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by HomerJay » Mon May 07, 2012 8:46 pm

Robert_S wrote:
klr wrote:And yes, the troubles have been on the back burner for more than a decade or more, hopefully never to return.
I still don't know what to make of calling that "The Troubles".
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Ronja » Wed May 09, 2012 9:01 am

klr wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
klr wrote:And yes, the troubles have been on the back burner for more than a decade or more, hopefully never to return.
I still don't know what to make of calling that "The Troubles".
You're not the only one. :hehe:

We called WW II "The Emergency", as we were officially neutral.

It's just an Irish thing. :pardon:
No "pardon" necessary - after the Great Famine pretty much anything would look rather minor, I guess.

The latest Years of Hunger (Nälkävuodet) in Finland, 1866-1868, when 250,000 of our then population of 1,850,000 died (the history of which "Nälkä vai tauti tappoi?" I'm leafing through very slowly ATM) are still pretty tame compared to your Great Famine. Especially as we had a government of our own, which tried to do what they could, only they were short of cash already after the first almost total crop failure in 1866, and 1857, 1862 and 1865 had also been pretty bad, and the impossible weathers made transport of emergency grain difficult and at times outright impossible.

Do people in Ireland still talk about the Great Famine? My grandmother told stories to us that her grandmother, who had heard them from her grandmother, had told her, and those stories seemed to have lost none of their potency when passed from generation to generation.
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Re: Al-Qaeda sought to convert the Irish

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Wed May 09, 2012 9:20 am

Ronja wrote:...Do people in Ireland still talk about the Great Famine?..
Yes, they still milk it. :bored:
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