
Our moon with atmosphere?
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Our moon with atmosphere?
Could they siphon off a bit of earths atmosphere to the moon as a temporary, hundred thousand years, stop gap to avoid climate change induced mass extinction and a quicker alternative to terraforming mars? I'd like to save the planets animals... 

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The moon used to have an atmosphere but couldn't hold onto it.. i don't think it had enough gravitational pull
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Ele is right. It would escape immediately. Not an option.
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Anyone done the math? Look at Titan...similar size but with atmosphere, albeit a different composition. A hundred thousand years is long enough to move onto Mars. How much atmosphere would be required if a self-repairing nano-material of thin polythene like stuff was wrapped around the moon at somealtitude so that the upper part of its atmosphere didn't leak away?Rum wrote:Ele is right. It would escape immediately. Not an option.
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Yes, the maths has been done.Crumple wrote:Anyone done the math? Look at Titan...similar size but with atmosphere, albeit a different composition. A hundred thousand years is long enough to move onto Mars. How much atmosphere would be required if a self-repairing nano-material of thin polythene like stuff was wrapped around the moon at somealtitude so that the upper part of its atmosphere didn't leak away?Rum wrote:Ele is right. It would escape immediately. Not an option.
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That read like a joke, is there something funny in there that I've missed?Elessarina wrote:The moon used to have an atmosphere but couldn't hold onto it.. i don't think it had enough gravitational pull

But anyway, yeah unless we get some black-hole technology to increase its mass. Or compress it enough that the gravitational forces on the surface were the same as on earth - Would that work? And if so, can some of our clever physics people calculate how small we'd have to squish the moon?
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If it becomes possible to siphon atmosphere then over some thousands of years the technology might develop to siphon some of earths magma to increase the moons mass? if the initial atmosphere only remains a few thousand years it might be enough time to bootstrap a entire host of other technological fixes that become possible with continued scientific progress. 

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PsychoSerenity wrote:That read like a joke, is there something funny in there that I've missed?Elessarina wrote:The moon used to have an atmosphere but couldn't hold onto it.. i don't think it had enough gravitational pull![]()
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Crumple wrote:If it becomes possible to siphon atmosphere then over some thousands of years the technology might develop to siphon some of earths magma to increase the moons mass? if the initial atmosphere only remains a few thousand years it might be enough time to bootstrap a entire host of other technological fixes that become possible with continued scientific progress.
If you try to increase the moon's mass you're in danger of causing the moon to starts on a collision course with earth?
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We should just build the smokestacks of our coal-fired plants high enough that they vent directly to space. That should solve the problem.
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Um, no. The gases wouldn't have escape velocity, so they'd re-enter after a while.Thumpalumpacus wrote:We should just build the smokestacks of our coal-fired plants high enough that they vent directly to space. That should solve the problem.
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But by that time, we'll be further along in our orbit. We will have left the gases behind.Gawdzilla wrote:Um, no. The gases wouldn't have escape velocity, so they'd re-enter after a while.Thumpalumpacus wrote:We should just build the smokestacks of our coal-fired plants high enough that they vent directly to space. That should solve the problem.
Really, this can work.
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Um, escape velocity...Thumpalumpacus wrote:But by that time, we'll be further along in our orbit. We will have left the gases behind.Gawdzilla wrote:Um, no. The gases wouldn't have escape velocity, so they'd re-enter after a while.Thumpalumpacus wrote:We should just build the smokestacks of our coal-fired plants high enough that they vent directly to space. That should solve the problem.
Really, this can work.
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No, that's no problem. You just fire up the plants as they rotate to the trailing hemisphere, and shut them down as the Earth's rotation brings them back to the leading side. That way, the emissions never get blown back onto the Earth, but are rather left in its wake. It's the same reason the tailpipe on your car vents to the rear of the car, and not the front. This way, the Earth's orbital velocity provides the escape speed.Gawdzilla wrote:Um, escape velocity...
It's easy, don't you see? You just have to time the ignition and shutdown of the plants so that we don't get a facefull of smoke, so to speak.
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