War

[Tyrannical]

Good thing they were willing to sink one of their largest liners and kill a bunch of people then, weren't it.

Makes me wonder how the Germans knew about it

I'm sure the British would never have leaked that information to the Germans in hopes of drawing the US into war

You do know the area around England was a logical place to look for shipping going to places like, say, ENGLAND?

But it was a cruise liner, and the Germans only sunk it because it was illegally carrying munitions. How did they know?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Good thing they were willing to sink one of their largest liners and kill a bunch of people then, weren't it.

Makes me wonder how the Germans knew about it

I'm sure the British would never have leaked that information to the Germans in hopes of drawing the US into war

You do know the area around England was a logical place to look for shipping going to places like, say, ENGLAND?

But it was a cruise liner, and the Germans only sunk it because it was illegally carrying munitions. How did they know?

Why do you think they told the truth?

[Tyrannical]

Because getting the Germans to sink a ship carrying a bunch of US citizens would get the US to side with the UK. At best the UK was guilty of using them as human shields.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Because getting the Germans to sink a ship carrying a bunch of US citizens would get the US to side with the UK. At best the UK was guilty of using them as human shields.

Seems you're missing about 90% of the information on this matter.

[redunderthebed]

So, no. I cannot claim that I would be against going to war in every circumstance, even though it naturally should be avoided as far as possible.

+1

Sometimes you have to do things that involve pain and suffering and well shit happening for a greater cause WWII i include in this.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So, no. I cannot claim that I would be against going to war in every circumstance, even though it naturally should be avoided as far as possible.

+1

Sometimes you have to do things that involve pain and suffering and well shit happening for a greater cause WWII i include in this.

Self-defense is justified.

[Tyrannical]

Because getting the Germans to sink a ship carrying a bunch of US citizens would get the US to side with the UK. At best the UK was guilty of using them as human shields.

Seems you're missing about 90% of the information on this matter.

it was illegal for the UK to transport munitions on civilian ships. It was legal for the Germans to sink any ships carrying munitions, and the Germans had to rely on submarines due to UK naval supremacy.

The US should have remained strictly neutral and stayed out of European affairs. Or at least sold stuff to both sides

[Tyrannical]

So, no. I cannot claim that I would be against going to war in every circumstance, even though it naturally should be avoided as far as possible.

+1

Sometimes you have to do things that involve pain and suffering and well shit happening for a greater cause WWII i include in this.

Self-defense is justified.

There is no greater justification for war than likelihood of success

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Non-sequitur thread is over there.

[redunderthebed]

The US should have remained strictly neutral and stayed out of European affairs. Or at least sold stuff to both sides

Like coca-cola and IBM

[Horwood Beer-Master]

...When will it be realised that the soldiers who do the killing have more in common with the people they are sent out to kill than those who they do the killing on behalf of?..

That kinda depends on how deeply the soldiers are steeped in the ideology of their own side. For example, it's fairly certain that those sent forward to die for the Taliban really do have more in common with the people who sent them out to die than they do with those they are killing.

[Seth]

War is what happens when societies have too many young men and too few young women for them to screw and society needs to a) obtain more women; and b) cull the herd of young bucks of the more aggressive members who are causing social unrest because they can't get laid. It's a biological urge from way back when.

Every motive for war can be traced back to this fundamental societal balancing equation to one extent or another.

Which is why China and North Korea are so very damned dangerous to world peace, and Russia is a pretty toothless bear right now. Too many men in China and NK, too many women in Russia.

And this explains why today we have fewer wars, and less destructive wars than any time in history, how?

I don't think we do have fewer wars. There are wars going on all over the planet right now to one extent or another. And we don't have "less destructive wars," we have much more destructive wars.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"It is good that war is so terrible, else we would grow too fond of it." Bobby Lee.

War is a kick, and quite addictive, while sucking furiously. Strange contradiction I will not even try to explain.

[Tyrannical]

"It is good that war is so terrible, else we would grow too fond of it." Bobby Lee.

War is a kick, and quite addictive, while sucking furiously. Strange contradiction I will not even try to explain.

War is all fun and games, until you lose.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Good thing they were willing to sink one of their largest liners and kill a bunch of people then, weren't it.

Makes me wonder how the Germans knew about it

I'm sure the British would never have leaked that information to the Germans in hopes of drawing the US into war

Might've been the ads in the newspapers.