Anne Romney Hasn't Worked A Day in Her Life

[FBM]

This is a general reminder for everyone to play nice. It doesn't look like anyone has violated any rules so far, and it would be great if it stayed that way. Thanks.

[Coito ergo sum]

More fucking money to women who wouldn't currently be eligible --- BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING WORKING AN EARNING MONEY!

I.e. - just as you said, sometimes it doesn't make sense for a woman to take a job because the child care costs more money than their low paying job is worth. So, the new child care benefit would provide child care benefits to those working mothers.

You seem to oppose that. Fine.

How the hell am I opposing that? I'd be all for it if there was actually some solid proof it will be done.

Other than the candidate proposing it, what proof can be provided? Do you ask for similar proofs from all candidates?

The "HOUSEHOLD" income is considered when applied for these kind of benefits. Now if the mother's job creates more income than eligible per household income, she'll loose the benefits. She'll end up paying the babysitter 1/2 of her income if not more and they're back to square one. So, my questions is where will be the cut off amount?

Good - household income SHOULD be considered. A father has an obligation to support his children.

I don't know where the cutoff amount would be under Romney proposal. One would need to ask him for details.

Did you support Obamacare before the details of who would be eligible to receive government subsidies for the purchase of insurance were settled?

[kiki5711]

WEll then we're back to square one. NObody knows anything.

Obamacare is a totally different issue which I'm not familiar with.

Good - household income SHOULD be considered. A father has an obligation to support his children.

Well high horse graciousness is very appreciated, thank you so much!


Of course the family income has always been considered. Now if single moms go back to work and exceed the income allowed for assistance and after paying for a babysitter leaves them with just a few dollars to live on, it's back to welfare again. They basically can't afford to work. And being a single mom is ALSO not a crime, just to remind you. You cannot judge those that you have no idea of their circumstances.

[Coito ergo sum]

WEll then we're back to square one. NObody knows anything.

No less than when any candidate -- ANY candidate -- makes their campaign proposals.

Obamacare is a totally different issue which I'm not familiar with.

The question was, did you support it before you knew the details of who would get government assistance? That's the point. I'd bet you did.

And, I bet any number of Democrat proposals would meet your approval before you knew exactly where the cut-off would be.

Of course the family income has always been considered. Now if single moms go back to work and exceed the income allowed for assistance and after paying for a babysitter leaves them with just a few dollars to live on, it's back to welfare again. They basically can't afford to work. And being a single mom is ALSO not a crime, just to remind you. You cannot judge those that you have no idea of their circumstances.

I'm not fucking judging them! And, I never said being a single mom is not a crime. Christ.

I'm saying that if you actually listen to what Romney said, he's looking to help fix that problem by adding federal funding for working mothers who need to pay for day care. That is EXACTLY the problem you identify, and EXACTLY the problem Romney proposes to spearhead a federal program to help with. But, for some reason, you lambaste him for it.

[kiki5711]

I'm saying that if you actually listen to what Romney said, he's looking to help fix that problem by adding federal funding for working mothers who need to pay for day care. That is EXACTLY the problem you identify, and EXACTLY the problem Romney proposes to spearhead a federal program to help with. But, for some reason, you lambaste him for it.

SIMPLE, because I don't believe him. HE IS FOR CUTTING spending for federal assistance, not adding to it.

[kiki5711]

he question was, did you support it before you knew the details of who would get government assistance? That's the point. I'd bet you did.

Now it's you judging me with your venom of attack.

I don't know the details of Obamacare and how it will affect me. I will look it up and educate myself on it.

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm saying that if you actually listen to what Romney said, he's looking to help fix that problem by adding federal funding for working mothers who need to pay for day care. That is EXACTLY the problem you identify, and EXACTLY the problem Romney proposes to spearhead a federal program to help with. But, for some reason, you lambaste him for it.

SIMPLE, because I don't believe him. HE IS FOR CUTTING spending for federal assistance, not adding to it.

Figures.

[Coito ergo sum]

he question was, did you support it before you knew the details of who would get government assistance? That's the point. I'd bet you did.

Now it's you judging me with your venom of attack.

My venom is no more poisonous toward you than yours to me. I respond to you. Think about it.

I don't know the details of Obamacare and how it will affect me. I will look it up and educate myself on it.

But you supported it, I bet.

You "believed" Obama, didn't you?

[hadespussercats]

I'm interrupting this on-topic discussion of current events to point out that Coito has yet to respond to my question.

I'm being a biddy. Should I send you some booties Sprog has outgrown?

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm interrupting this on-topic discussion of current events to point out that Coito has yet to respond to my question.

I'm being a biddy. Should I send you some booties Sprog has outgrown?

Really? If I have missed a question, I do apologize. I will scroll back and look. I did not intend to, as far as I can recall.

EDIT: I missed that question. No new news, at present.

[Coito ergo sum]

They can have all the kids they want. The thing is, I wanted kids earlier too. I waited until I was better able to care for a child.

If everyone thought like that, half the population on this planet would not have kids. It's not a "reasonable" argument based on human nature.

And, we'd have a much better planet, if 1/2 the population didn't. But, that's just my opinion, I digress.

One thing is for sure, though, if you subsidize it, there will be more of it. So, there is little to be gained by paying people to support the kids they choose to have.

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say, it's your kid. You take care of it.

[hadespussercats]

I'm interrupting this on-topic discussion of current events to point out that Coito has yet to respond to my question.

I'm being a biddy. Should I send you some booties Sprog has outgrown?

Really? If I have missed a question, I do apologize. I will scroll back and look. I did not intend to, as far as I can recall.

EDIT: I missed that question. No new news, at present.

Hmmmm.

Well, good luck, then. And enjoy.

[Warren Dew]

You're the one suggesting sterilization, not me.

You didn't out right say it, but that was your implication.

Far from it. I'm only suggesting thoughtful family planning. The fact that sterilization comes to mind to you is a reflection on your thinking, not mine.

[Warren Dew]

EDIT: I missed that question. No new news, at present.

Ah, but this implies you are trying, right? For some reason I was under the impression you had already had kids.

[Coito ergo sum]

EDIT: I missed that question. No new news, at present.

Ah, but this implies you are trying, right? For some reason I was under the impression you had already had kids.

Yes, but the latter does not foreclose the former. Although it probably should....