US Prez Election 2012 Thread - Opinions and Discussions

[Coito ergo sum]

He's not a Muslim, but he is a Christian. There are quite a few idiots who think he's just joshin' about that.

[eXcommunicate]

I have serious doubts that Mitt believes all the Mormon stuff, the same way I have doubts that Obama believes in all that Christian stuff. I really don't think it matters. It's the True Believers® you have to worry about.

[Ian]

I think that's true. Most "religious" people in a country like this can at least compartmentalize their intellects. They're really quasi-religious. It's why I have no trouble believing that an expert on, say, civil engineering has a good idea what they're talking about when they talk about engineering, even if they also happen to believe in Noah's Ark and talking snakes on Sunday mornings. The people who trouble me are the ones who are truly centered on their religion and can't seem to put that stuff aside when it matters. Santorum is definitely one of those types.

[JimC]

I think that's true. Most "religious" people in a country like this can at least compartmentalize their intellects. They're really quasi-religious. It's why I have no trouble believing that an expert on, say, civil engineering has a good idea what they're talking about when they talk about engineering, even if they also happen to believe in Noah's Ark and talking snakes on Sunday mornings. The people who trouble me are the ones who are truly centered on their religion and can't seem to put that stuff aside when it matters. Santorum is definitely one of those types.

Or wants to appeal to those types... He is a politician, after all...

[Coito ergo sum]

The GOP VP candidate. Who should it be?

Van Jones suggested Condi Rice.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... campaign-g

She is certainly a good candidate.

Maybe she could get a percentage or two of the black vote for the 'publicans, and she could help with the women's vote too.

[Coito ergo sum]

Dick Cheney -- 3 weeks after heart transplant - Obama an unmitigated disaster -- http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... untry.html

[Tyrannical]

Ron Paul still up to mischief and stealing delegates

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ ... hallenge-/
Colorado

GOP has chosen 13 Romney delegates and six Santorum delegates. The remaining 17 delegates are unpledged, meaning they are free to choose any Republican candidate for president.”

That’s technically accurate, but it begs a question from anyone even minimally curious: Who do those 17 unpledged delegates support? Are they undecided, or do they intend to vote for a specific candidate at the Republican National Convention (RNC)?

Todd King of Lewis, Colorado is one of the elected delegates from that slate. King is a Ron Paul supporter and will vote for Paul for president on the first ballot in Tampa. I asked him how the 17 unpledged delegates break down. This is his statement.

“13 unpledged delegates, including me, will vote for Ron Paul on the first ballot. One unpledged delegate will vote for Santorum

Remember, this is a state where Santorum won with 40% of the caucus popular vote. Romney came in 2nd with 35% and Ron Paul finished last with 12%. Yet Paul is in a virtual tie for the lead in terms of the actual votes he will get on the first ballot at the RNC.

Missouri

Santorum won the caucus vote in Missouri by a much wider margin with 55% of the vote. Romney finished second with 25% and Paul was a distant third with 12%. However, early indications are that Paul will win far more delegates at Missouri’s state convention June 1-2. According to Fox News, Missouri’s GOP leadership admits that Paul may get all of the delegates from Missouri.

Iowa

The Iowa GOP leadership has previously acknowledged that Paul may win Iowa as well. Iowa holds its state convention on June 16.

[tattuchu]

The GOP VP candidate. Who should it be?

Van Jones suggested Condi Rice.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... campaign-g

She is certainly a good candidate.

Maybe she could get a percentage or two of the black vote for the 'publicans, and she could help with the women's vote too.

I like Condi. Doesn't hurt that she's cute either. Though maybe that's why I like her

But I sure as hell ain't votin fot Mitt. So, as disappointed as I am with Obama, I guess I'll still be voting for him.

[Warren Dew]

Maybe she could get a percentage or two of the black vote for the 'publicans, and she could help with the women's vote too.

I like Rice but I don't think she'd add much to the ticket.

I don't think women really vote by gender of the candidate. Nor does Rice really appeal to the bulk of the black electorate much.

Granted Romney may peel off a couple percentage points of the black vote all by himself, given that blacks have been hit disproportionately hard by Obama's mishandling of the economy.

[Tyrannical]

There are rumors that Santorum might endorse Paul.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/ins ... ightening/

Rick Santorum pulled the plug on his presidential campaign a week ago, but apparently that was after his campaign sent out another round of fundraising letters warning Iowans that the former Pennsylvania senator was frightened by the prospect of Mitt Romney becoming the party's nominee.

"There's still time for conservatives if we act now to win this primary to make sure our party doesn't nominate a Massachusetts Moderate to run against Obama," the mailer says, according to the Des Moines Register. "It truly frightens me to think what'll happen if Mitt Romney is the nominee."

Newt is practically broke, so I don't think Santorum meant him.

http://www.newsmax.com/DougWead/Ron-Pau ... /id/435652

Paul has been meeting with evangelical leaders, which previously endorsed Santorum.

Why not turn to Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Catholic who is a former Southern Baptist, with views that resonate with evangelicals?

"If we had to do it over again, we should have gone with Gingrich," one of Santorum's supporters told me today. But if we switch to Gingrich now we risk another drop out."

"I have one question for you," one of the ministers reportedly said in the private meeting last night with Ron Paul, "Are you going to drop out? Or will you stay in all the way to Tampa?"

"I'm in," the Texan replied.

"That's all I need to know," the minister said.

The evangelical community began reaching out to Paul almost immediately after Sen. Rick Santorum dropped out of the presidential race.

This race might not be over
Sure there is an anyone but Obama mentality, but a lot of Republicans also want anyone but Romney. Paul polls competitively against Obama, and if people are convinced he is at least as likely as Mittens to beat Obama, Paul could get the nomination.

[Coito ergo sum]

The Obama Administration would ejaculate in their pants in unison if Paul won the nomination.

[Tyrannical]

The Obama Administration would ejaculate in their pants in unison if Paul won the nomination.

Don't be so sure

Think of some traditional Democrat voting demographics that Obama can't count on

Anti-War activists support Ron Paul. In fact, they would protest Obama in the election
Youth and college students support Ron Paul more than any Republican in my memory.
Dope smoking hippies. The California medical marijuana movement and "raw milk" sellers have already mobilized to support Paul.

At the least, Paul should win some type of award for putting together the strangest political coalition I've ever heard of

[Warren Dew]

Youth and college students support Ron Paul more than any Republican in my memory.

Checked out youth and recent college graduate unemployment rates recently? Paul just gives them a nonestablishment outlet to oppose Obama.

[Coito ergo sum]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/ins ... ipiac-pol/

President Obama holds a thin 46 percent to 42 percent lead over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in a Quinnipiac University national poll released Thursday, even as voters give the Republican a major edge on such key issues as the economy, jobs and gas prices.

The president has a 10-point edge with women voters, 49 percent to 39 percent. But Mr. Romney is viewed as better on a number of pocketbook issues that both sides agree could be critical come November. Voters disapprove of Mr. Obama's handling on the economy by 56 percent to 38 percent.

"Republican Romney seems to hold an edge on the economy — the top issue of the campaign — and holds his own against the incumbent on being a strong leader," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

Eighty-one percent of voters think the president is likable, compared to 63 percent for Mr. Romney. And 64 percent of voters say they don't know enough about Ann Romney, wife of the presumptive nominee, to form an opinion.

[Coito ergo sum]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... ident.html

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) makes a Freudian slip and refers to himself as Vice President when asked if he was interested in the position.

"I'm going to have the chance to contribute to that as a United States Senator. I'm excited about that prospect," Rubio said about his political future.

"Three, four, five, six, seven years from now, if I do a good job as a Vice President -- I'm sorry, as Senator, I'll have the chance to do all sorts of things," Rubio said today.

Hmmmm....does he know something we don't know?