Tero's Atheist Ramblings

[Tero]

Ted Haggard

Then, his wife at his side, Mr. Haggard left town.

He is back now. In a move that thrilled some of his former flock—and alarmed some of his fellow evangelical Christians—Mr. Haggard and his wife Gayle recently launched a new church in their backyard barn, a few miles from the enormous campus of his old congregation.

In two months of preaching with sacks of fence-post concrete at his feet, Mr. Haggard, who is 54 years old, has built a congregation of nearly 200 people. His church, St. James, has outgrown the barn and this Sunday moves to a rented community center.

Ebullient as ever, bouncing with energy, Mr. Haggard said he is back doing what he was born to do.

200+ suckers are still supporting him.

[FBM]

One born every minute, I hear.

[Tero]

All those pesky facts get in the way of even fancy liberal post-modern Christians:

Secondly, modernity has made us preoccupied with factuality, with scientifically verifiable facts and with historically reliable facts. Indeed (and it seems to me this is a very important statement about us), we live in the only culture in human history that has identified factuality with truthfulness. And by that I don’t mean the U.S. I mean modern Western culture. We have become, in a useful phrase that I owe to Huston Smith, "fact-fundamentalists". Within the church, both biblical fundamentalists and liberals have been preoccupied with factuality. For fundamentalists, the Bible must be factually true in order for it to be true at all, and hence all of this concern with defending the factuality of scripture. Fundamentalists are profoundly modern. They identify truth with factuality.

http://www.religion-online.org/showarti ... title=1639

[Tero]

http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/03/24/d ... fferences/
Derek Acorah and ‘spirit guide’ split because of ‘artistic differences’

[Tero]

Catch of the day:

[On how kangaroos could have gotten back to Australia after the flood]:  Don't kangaroos skip along the surface of the water? --Kenn

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Catch of the day:

[On how kangaroos could have gotten back to Australia after the flood]:  Don't kangaroos skip along the surface of the water? --Kenn

Some do:

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

[Tero]

Very nice.

Resurrection 101.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2778 ... tionbw.jpg

[Gawdzilla Sama]

[Tero]

A new fundie, Rock, joins Amputees 3 weeks ago to "debate" theists. After 22 pages, we find he believes God made man from dirt, which has no C or N:
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forum ... #msg492570

[Tero]

A Dr Knowitall on another forum summarizes gospels

For example, the story of Mark, acknowledged by many as the first, has no birth miracles, describes events that occurred in one year in probably a thirty year life and finished with the empty tomb. Matthew - the second, composed probably after the Jewish revolt 66-70 CE proposes a virgin birth during the reign of King Herod, and a series of resurrection stories. Luke, proposes even more birth stories, during a time of the Roman Census ten years after Herod died, and proposes many more resurrection stories. In these Jesus does not acknowledge himself to be the son of God, and speaks of the coming of the "Son of Man". John, the very last Gospel to be written, is full of signs - turning water into wine, walking on water, raising Lazarus from the dead etc, and has Jesus saying that he is effectively Gods only begotten son.

[Tero]

Book of Revelation
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/3 ... ?hpt=hp_c1

Not that we have a good idea of where the other books came form, but is there any data on this? Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_re ... n_theories

[Svartalf]

I'm bothered by the people who believe that "666" means Emperor Nero... After all, by the time Titus embarked for the Jewish War, Nero was dead and buried and the year of 4 emperors had passed too. Titus, was, after all, a general for his father Vespasianus Caesar.... and I doubt anybody in the Roman world could have been ignorant of the Imperial changes, especially since the uprising probably aimed to take advantage of the turmoil in Rome and depleted garrisons.

So nobody at the time would have blamed Nero for what Titus did in Jerusalem, especially 30 years after the fact.

[Tero]

Signature of the week:
There’s no difference between a bunch of theologians sitting around debating scripture than a bunch of D&D nerds sitting around debating which version of the Player’s Handbook to use.

[Ronja]

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[Svartalf]

That's offensive to us RPG geeks