The gasoline/petrol price thread.

[Coito ergo sum]

Up again here. The over-under on my empty gas take is now up to $85. I'm taking bets.

[Warren Dew]

Filled up my tank from near empty yesterday. Broke the $80 mark.

Get used to it, and stop whining. Or buy a car with a smaller engine. Small engine does not necessarily mean small car.

My car barely costs $40 to fill the tank. I'm betting the main difference with Coito's is more in the size and shape of the vehicle than in the power of the engine, given a 5 second 0-60 time.

My wife's car costs $60 to fill the tank but seats up to 8, and often has 5 people in it.

[Warren Dew]

Obama is in favor of higher gasoline prices anyway. That is what he wants for the US.

I'm in favor of higher gasoline prices too. My problem with him is that he does it through lower supply and higher crude prices so that Arab princes and oil companies get even more profits than they already get. Just increase the fuel taxes and lower taxes on earned income to make up for it.

[Coito ergo sum]

Filled up my tank from near empty yesterday. Broke the $80 mark.

Get used to it, and stop whining. Or buy a car with a smaller engine. Small engine does not necessarily mean small car.

My car barely costs $40 to fill the tank. I'm betting the main difference with Coito's is more in the size and shape of the vehicle than in the power of the engine, given a 5 second 0-60 time.

My wife's car costs $60 to fill the tank but seats up to 8, and often has 5 people in it.

Generally, the cost to fill up a car is directly related to the size of the gas tank. The size of the vehicle itself would relate to how often the tank needs to be filled (i.e. the rate of depletion of the gas in the tank). However, a small car with a 21 gallon tank costs exactly the same to fill as a big car with a 21 gallon tank.

[Coito ergo sum]

Obama is in favor of higher gasoline prices anyway. That is what he wants for the US.

I'm in favor of higher gasoline prices too. My problem with him is that he does it through lower supply and higher crude prices so that Arab princes and oil companies get even more profits than they already get. Just increase the fuel taxes and lower taxes on earned income to make up for it.

I'm not in favor of higher gasoline prices. I'm in favor of lower electricity, alcohol, natural gas and other power source prices.

[JimC]

It's all very vague when you talk about the cost of filling up an empty tank. The two things that are important are your average litres per 100 km (or mpg if you like anachronisms) and the average distance you drive per week.

I record the odometer reading, price and litres purchased every time I fill up, and regularly enter this data into a custom spreadsheet...

I am such a fucking nerd...

[Warren Dew]

It's all very vague when you talk about the cost of filling up an empty tank. The two things that are important are your average litres per 100 km (or mpg if you like anachronisms) and the average distance you drive per week.

The thing is, these two are not orthogonal: the route used generally affects both gas mileage and distance. It would actually be more accurate to track fuel consumed per week.

Cost of fill up plus fill up frequency would be a better measure.

[JimC]

It's all very vague when you talk about the cost of filling up an empty tank. The two things that are important are your average litres per 100 km (or mpg if you like anachronisms) and the average distance you drive per week.

The thing is, these two are not orthogonal: the route used generally affects both gas mileage and distance. It would actually be more accurate to track fuel consumed per week.

Cost of fill up plus fill up frequency would be a better measure.

I record everything!

My spreadsheet is a work of art...

And the actual fuel consumption is useful for several reasons - it helps me to drive economically, and a sudden increase may indicate a fault that needs rectifying...

But mostly I do it because I like creating nerdy spreadsheets...

[Hermit]

I record the odometer reading, price and litres purchased every time I fill up, and regularly enter this data into a custom spreadsheet...

I am such a fucking nerd...

Haha. Setting up a customised and automated spreadsheet for fuel consumption rates involved writing my first macro. That was around 1989, when Lotus 123 was purely command-line stuff. Worked well for my trucks. About seven years ago I stopped recording the data because my partner was not into wasting her time with noting down useless details.

[JimC]

I record the odometer reading, price and litres purchased every time I fill up, and regularly enter this data into a custom spreadsheet...

I am such a fucking nerd...

Haha. Setting up a customised and automated spreadsheet for fuel consumption rates involved writing my first macro. That was around 1989, when Lotus 123 was purely command-line stuff. Worked well for my trucks. About seven years ago I stopped recording the data because my partner was not into wasting her time with noting down useless details.

I once suggested to Bron that she follow suit with her Mazda...

I got one of those looks in response, and wisely shut up...

[Coito ergo sum]

$9 per gallon gas? http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer. ... gas/499451

[Coito ergo sum]

The Obama EPA policy --

EPA Official's 'Philosophy' On Oil Companies: 'Crucify Them' - Just As Romans Crucified Conquered Citizens

http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister ... -crucified

[Tero]

It was the only driving/gas thread.

Anyway: electric cars would do away with gas tax:
Road construction mostly driven by gas tax
In the U.S., road construction is funded heavily by taxes on motor fuel. A federal tax of about 18 cents for gasoline and about 24 cents for diesel is charged for each gallon sold.

Every state imposes an additional tax. State motor fuel tax rates range from 8 cents in Alaska to 57.6 cents in Pennsylvania for a gallon of gasoline, according to the latest monthly report from the Federal Highway Administration. State taxes on diesel fuel often are higher.

In Wyoming, drivers pay an additional 24 cents a gallon on both gasoline and diesel.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 403172001/

[pErvinalia]

Government(s) in Australia want to retain the fuel tax on electric vehicles. Understandable because that's a part of road funding. Although, the average bloke doesn't seem to understand this.

[JimC]

Government(s) in Australia want to retain the fuel tax on electric vehicles. Understandable because that's a part of road funding. Although, the average bloke doesn't seem to understand this.

They want to do it via a separates levy of some sort. And, although I understand the contribution of fuel taxes to road maintenance, I think that the current urgent need to encourage electric car ownership trumps that. Later, some form of general car registration fee can cope with road issues.