Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Would you go up with nobody in the cockpit?

Sure, whatever
10
48%
No way in hell
4
19%
Not even with a pilot (the JimC option)
2
10%
Bacon
0
No votes
Cheese
0
No votes
Other (explain, please)
5
24%
 
Total votes: 21

User avatar
FBM
Ratz' first Gritizen.
Posts: 45327
Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:43 pm
About me: Skeptic. "Because it does not contend
It is therefore beyond reproach"
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by FBM » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:48 pm

Anyway, the "sure, whatever" votes seem to be holding a slight edge. Did the two "others" explain already?
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken

"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."

"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."

User avatar
Gawdzilla Sama
Stabsobermaschinist
Posts: 151265
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:55 pm

What poll?
Image
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”

User avatar
amused
amused
Posts: 3873
Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:04 pm
About me: Reinvention phase initiated
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by amused » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:55 pm

Other - I'd want someone on board who has at least had some training into how to reboot the software.

"Is it plugged in? Go to step 2."

User avatar
Gawdzilla Sama
Stabsobermaschinist
Posts: 151265
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:59 pm

amused wrote:Other - I'd want someone on board who has at least had some training into how to reboot the software.

"Is it plugged in? Go to step 2."
"Are you in Europe? Do you need an adapter?"
Image
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”

User avatar
FBM
Ratz' first Gritizen.
Posts: 45327
Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:43 pm
About me: Skeptic. "Because it does not contend
It is therefore beyond reproach"
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by FBM » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:59 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:What poll?
The hereford. :fp:
amused wrote:Other - I'd want someone on board who has at least had some training into how to reboot the software.

"Is it plugged in? Go to step 2."
That could be done from a PS2 controller in a pilot's or engineer's living room while s/he's sitting in underwear and emitting various odors.
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken

"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."

"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."

User avatar
mistermack
Posts: 15093
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 am
About me: Never rong.
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by mistermack » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:13 pm

Driverless buses and coaches might come first, so we might be less worried about pilotless planes then.

There are clear reasons why a bus or coach, or a truck, might be safer without a driver. If a driver falls asleep, or has a heart attack, uses his phone, or just loses his temper, it can kill loads of people. It happens every day.

So once they can make it work well, driverless WILL be safer. So one day, we'll be well used to machines taking us about, and planes won't worry us either.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.

User avatar
FBM
Ratz' first Gritizen.
Posts: 45327
Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:43 pm
About me: Skeptic. "Because it does not contend
It is therefore beyond reproach"
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by FBM » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:15 pm

Ah. Good points. :eddy:
"A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken

"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."

"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."

User avatar
Gawdzilla Sama
Stabsobermaschinist
Posts: 151265
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:16 pm

mistermack wrote:Driverless buses and coaches might come first, so we might be less worried about pilotless planes then.

There are clear reasons why a bus or coach, or a truck, might be safer without a driver. If a driver falls asleep, or has a heart attack, uses his phone, or just loses his temper, it can kill loads of people. It happens every day.

So once they can make it work well, driverless WILL be safer. So one day, we'll be well used to machines taking us about, and planes won't worry us either.
I think driverless urban railways would be acceptable. DC's Metro could certainly operate remotely.

As for flying, I'd rather have a pilot on the ground who isn't worn out from constant flying in control of the plane than a pilot who can barely stay awake in the cockpit.
Image
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”

User avatar
Atheist-Lite
Formerly known as Crumple
Posts: 8745
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:35 pm
About me: You need a jetpack? Here, take mine. I don't need a jetpack this far away.
Location: In the Galactic Hub, Yes That One !!!
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by Atheist-Lite » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:25 pm

Like these dodgy plastic airplanes it's a cost saving, nothing to do with passenger safety. I'd rather have a pilot on board to deter the airline from cutting corners on safety. And if anything does go wrong at least I'll die in the comfort of knowing at least one their staff members paid bigtime. :smoke:
nxnxm,cm,m,fvmf,vndfnm,nm,f,dvm,v v vmfm,vvm,d,dd vv sm,mvd,fmf,fn ,v fvfm,

User avatar
Ronja
Just Another Safety Nut
Posts: 10920
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:13 pm
About me: mother of 2 girls, married to fellow rat MiM, student (SW, HCI, ICT...) , self-employed editor/proofreader/translator
Location: Helsinki, Finland, EU
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by Ronja » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:33 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
mistermack wrote:Driverless buses and coaches might come first, so we might be less worried about pilotless planes then.

There are clear reasons why a bus or coach, or a truck, might be safer without a driver. If a driver falls asleep, or has a heart attack, uses his phone, or just loses his temper, it can kill loads of people. It happens every day.

So once they can make it work well, driverless WILL be safer. So one day, we'll be well used to machines taking us about, and planes won't worry us either.
I think driverless urban railways would be acceptable. DC's Metro could certainly operate remotely.
I've been trying to find a source in English about the seemingly embarrassing end of (or very long pause in) the project where the Helsinki metro was supposed to become driverless. The news was in our morning paper about a week ago - they are simply giving up at this point, because there have been too many problems and delays.

So my reason for choosing "other" is: sure, when I've seen it work on the ground, at least on rails, preferably also on roads.

Right now I am not impressed by what should have been cutting-edge technology.
"The internet is made of people. People matter. This includes you. Stop trying to sell everything about yourself to everyone. Don’t just hammer away and repeat and talk at people—talk TO people. It’s organic. Make stuff for the internet that matters to you, even if it seems stupid. Do it because it’s good and feels important. Put up more cat pictures. Make more songs. Show your doodles. Give things away and take things that are free." - Maureen J

"...anyone who says it’s “just the Internet” can :pawiz: . And then when they come back, they can :pawiz: again." - Tigger


User avatar
Ronja
Just Another Safety Nut
Posts: 10920
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:13 pm
About me: mother of 2 girls, married to fellow rat MiM, student (SW, HCI, ICT...) , self-employed editor/proofreader/translator
Location: Helsinki, Finland, EU
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by Ronja » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:46 pm

Found the news in Swedish at least: here's a Google translate version of it. On 22nd March Siemens was given three weeks time to convince Helsinki city that their driverless metro solution is doable also with drivers. So in mid-April we should know.

An article published in November 2011 (also via Google Translate) gives some background.
"The internet is made of people. People matter. This includes you. Stop trying to sell everything about yourself to everyone. Don’t just hammer away and repeat and talk at people—talk TO people. It’s organic. Make stuff for the internet that matters to you, even if it seems stupid. Do it because it’s good and feels important. Put up more cat pictures. Make more songs. Show your doodles. Give things away and take things that are free." - Maureen J

"...anyone who says it’s “just the Internet” can :pawiz: . And then when they come back, they can :pawiz: again." - Tigger

User avatar
Gawdzilla Sama
Stabsobermaschinist
Posts: 151265
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:50 pm

I think an underground and/or elevated system would be best for pilotless rails. They could install motion detectors along the routes and monitor them from a central location. If some homeless chap decided to take shelter in the tunnels, or a flock of California condors decided to roost on the Els, the central station would be made aware of the fact. And they could monitor each train as it entered, boarded, and left the stations.
Image
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”

User avatar
maiforpeace
Account Suspended at Member's Request
Posts: 15726
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:41 am
Location: under the redwood trees

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by maiforpeace » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:52 pm

Yes.

I drove in a car with Zilla as the pilot, didn't I? :hehe:
Atheists have always argued that this world is all that we have, and that our duty is to one another to make the very most and best of it. ~Christopher Hitchens~
Image
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3534/379 ... 3be9_o.jpg[/imgc]

User avatar
Gawdzilla Sama
Stabsobermaschinist
Posts: 151265
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
Contact:

Re: Pilotless airplanes. Would you fly in one?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:53 pm

maiforpeace wrote:Yes.

I drove in a car with Zilla as the pilot, didn't I? :hehe:
Was I awake? :dunno:
Image
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests