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It's not possible to make a documentary without some point of view. If you ask questions, they are already pointed.
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Ayaan wrote:Look, Mississippi may be a state full of backwards, racist, misogynistic people, but I was born there and lived there until about four years ago. I do love the state, it is a beautiful place and has plenty of wonderful people. If I thought that video was wildly misrepresenting the place, I would have been among the first to denounce it. However, the attitudes on display are not uncommon there, regardless of demographics.
Word for word. I love the state, but not the prevailing attitudes."A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it." ~ H. L. Mencken
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The worst cases were exported to South Korea years ago.
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I see the state is recovering nicely. 
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Outsourcing the cornpone.FBM wrote:I see the state is recovering nicely.
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Goddamn, I thought everybody knew about Mississippi. 
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Apparently not. 
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Alexandra Pelosi was just on Bill Maher discussing the clip and then showing her new one: interviews with people in line at a welfare office in New York. A good discussion about stereotypes followed. I recommend some of the people responding to this thread have a look at this week's Maher.
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Post a Youtube when it's available, will you?Ian wrote:I recommend some of the people responding to this thread have a look at this week's Maher.
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Coito ergo sum wrote:LOL - they likely won't do it. Because they'll have to take extra precautions so as not to make it wildly racist and offensive that it will certainly come across contrived. If you change the color of the men's skin, and have them stay stuff like "I want Obama to be President so I don't have to pay my mortgage no mo'" (in Ebonics or Jive, of course), with grinning toothless, yellow-eyed, ghetto folks, expressing their views, then I am sure there will be a number of complaints about it.
They'll make sure to find some well-spoken, clean cut folks who "just happen" to be in the area. You know....the kind of person that just ran from the cameras when Pelosi was in Mississippi interviewing white idiots.
Ian wrote:Alexandra Pelosi was just on Bill Maher discussing the clip and then showing her new one: interviews with people in line at a welfare office in New York. A good discussion about stereotypes followed. I recommend some of the people responding to this thread have a look at this week's Maher.
I was just getting ready to post the exact same thing....She was Bill Maher's interview guest tonight, and they did show her new piece, this time interviewing poor blacks standing in a welfare line in New York. In no way was it flattering for liberal Democrats. Suffice to say her and Bill will be catching a lot of shit from the left wing this time. As Ian says everyone should see this, but you should in particular CES...she addresses every concern you have made in this thread.
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As did the brief panel discussion afterwords: a good point was made about how people on either side use these stereotypes to assume the worst about the other side.
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I found this. It's not quite what you're looking for, but it's related. And funny.
The Pelosi thing will show up here eventually: http://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bill- ... limit=none
The Pelosi thing will show up here eventually: http://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bill- ... limit=none
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The clip of people interviewed in the welfare line starts at about 3:20 minutes in.
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I watched Maher last night. So here's the thing--the two videos and the way they were presented are not analogous.
If you watch the segment leading up to the Mississippi video (link below), Maher makes a big deal about how there was no cherry picking, and he says Pelosi didn't seek out a certain type of person, she just got off the plane and started talking to people. The implication of course, is that the people in the Mississippi video offer a fair and accurate representation of Mississippians in general.
No such implication is made with the New York video. In the segments preceding and following the New York video (link below), Pelosi makes it clear that the gentlemen in New York are "welfare queens", a small subset of the New York population. Pelosi and Maher neither allege or imply that the gentlemen in the New York video offer a fair and accurate representation of New Yorkers in general.
See the difference?
First video = Mississippians.
Second video = welfare queens (who, by the way, happen to live in New York).
If you watch the segment leading up to the Mississippi video (link below), Maher makes a big deal about how there was no cherry picking, and he says Pelosi didn't seek out a certain type of person, she just got off the plane and started talking to people. The implication of course, is that the people in the Mississippi video offer a fair and accurate representation of Mississippians in general.
No such implication is made with the New York video. In the segments preceding and following the New York video (link below), Pelosi makes it clear that the gentlemen in New York are "welfare queens", a small subset of the New York population. Pelosi and Maher neither allege or imply that the gentlemen in the New York video offer a fair and accurate representation of New Yorkers in general.
See the difference?
First video = Mississippians.
Second video = welfare queens (who, by the way, happen to live in New York).
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