Mississippi Conservatives - god help us!

[FBM]

Coito, you raise some good points. Women and blacks do seem to have been under-represented in that vid. But that's not sure evidence of cherry-picking. A lot has to do with where the interviewer went to conduct the interviews. You say you went to MS, where did you go? In MS, most towns and cities are still informally divided into black and white sections. You won't find this information on any tourist brochures, tho. To find the black section of town, you need to either ask a local or go looking around on your own. But, like I said, you made some good points, demographics-wise.

[Coito ergo sum]

So?

So, the people in the OP video do appear to be cherry picked. Cherry picking is the act of pointing at individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position.

Related data ignored:

Non-white groups, including African Americans, Latinos/Hispanics, American Indians, etc., all of whom represent significant data.
Women, representing a majority of the population of Mississippi
Other economic groups, such as the lower middle class, middle class, upper class, and wealthy.
Educated, such as anyone with a four year degree, or a graduate degree (and probably those with high school diplomas, although that is not made clear)
Doctors, lawyers, dentists, scientists.
Democrats
42.8% of the population who voted for Obama in 2008.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

They represent a significant portion of the population. I don't doubt the filmmaker chose the "best examples", but I could find worse by driving no more that 5 miles in any direction from here.

[PsychoSerenity]

Coito, there were only 8 people interviewed in the video. How statistically representative do you expect it to be?

[Coito ergo sum]

Coito, you raise some good points. Women and blacks do seem to have been under-represented in that vid. But that's not sure evidence of cherry-picking. A lot has to do with where the interviewer went to conduct the interviews.

There are towns with a dearth of women in Mississippi? Really?

And, saying "a lot has to do with where an interviewer went" is like some racist doing a similar video, going to 8 Mile Road in Detroit, or Compton in Los Angeles, interviewing some gold-toothed or toothless, dirt poor, high school drop out, welfare junkies and suggesting that they are representative or not cherry picked.

You say you went to MS, where did you go? In MS, most towns and cities are still informally divided into black and white sections. You won't find this information on any tourist brochures, tho. To find the black section of town, you need to either ask a local or go looking around on your own. But, like I said, you made some good points, demographics-wise.

Jackson, Hattiesburg, Biloxi, and Gulfport.

And, for the video to be cherry picked doesn't mean there aren't white, racist idiots in Mississippi. It means that other relevant and substantial data was ignored. Pelosi made a video consisting SOLELY of white, male, toothless, uneducated, probably borderline retarded, racists, and we're supposed to think that is representative of Mississippians, when it doesn't contain an interview with at least 1/2 women, and at last 1/3 black citizens.

Why would women and blacks be excluded? Too hard to find? Bollocks! Think about why the maker of the film wouldn't want to portray women and blacks as complete fuckwit, retards, toothless, idiots.

[Coito ergo sum]

Coito, there were only 8 people interviewed in the video. How statistically representative do you expect it to be?

I don't think it is representative, and I don't expect it to be. It's cherry picked. Plainly. Isn't it?

Why is there such a resistance to admitting that?

What were folks saying about MY refusal to admit when I had misread something? Please.

[Coito ergo sum]

They represent a significant portion of the population. I don't doubt the filmmaker chose the "best examples", but I could find worse by driving no more that 5 miles in any direction from here.

Choosing the "best examples" of what? That poor Mississippians are toothless idiots who vote for Republicans against their own interest?

That's called "cherry picking" to serve an agenda.

I'm not saying you couldn't find worse. I saw worse, or the same, in Manhattan, Chicago, and San Francisco.

[FBM]

Coito, you raise some good points. Women and blacks do seem to have been under-represented in that vid. But that's not sure evidence of cherry-picking. A lot has to do with where the interviewer went to conduct the interviews.

There are towns with a dearth of women in Mississippi? Really?

And, saying "a lot has to do with where an interviewer went" is like some racist doing a similar video, going to 8 Mile Road in Detroit, or Compton in Los Angeles, interviewing some gold-toothed or toothless, dirt poor, high school drop out, welfare junkies and suggesting that they are representative or not cherry picked.

You say you went to MS, where did you go? In MS, most towns and cities are still informally divided into black and white sections. You won't find this information on any tourist brochures, tho. To find the black section of town, you need to either ask a local or go looking around on your own. But, like I said, you made some good points, demographics-wise.

Jackson, Hattiesburg, Biloxi, and Gulfport.

And, for the video to be cherry picked doesn't mean there aren't white, racist idiots in Mississippi. It means that other relevant and substantial data was ignored. Pelosi made a video consisting SOLELY of white, male, toothless, uneducated, probably borderline retarded, racists, and we're supposed to think that is representative of Mississippians, when it doesn't contain an interview with at least 1/2 women, and at last 1/3 black citizens.

Why would women and blacks be excluded? Too hard to find? Bollocks! Think about why the maker of the film wouldn't want to portray women and blacks as complete fuckwit, retards, toothless, idiots.

Are your reading comprehension skills really so poor? I was conceding to your demographics point, maroon. Do you just post to fight, or what?

[Coito ergo sum]

No need to get personal. However, I do have reading comprehension skills, and I can see when someone wants it both ways. You said that it did not evidence cherry picking. It most certainly does. It is, by definition, cherry picking.

But, I've about exhausted my points.

[redunderthebed]

We could do one in Oz about Queensland conservatives...

That's our "Deep North"...

Or far north tasmania which is crawling with exclusive brethren.

We could do one in Oz about Queensland conservatives...

That's our "Deep North"...

I thought everybody in the North of Oz was exactly like Crocodile Dundee? Or is it Steve Irwin? I get those two mixed up.

Steve Irwin was based in south-east queensland nowhere near the northern queensland.

[FBM]

No need to get personal. However, I do have reading comprehension skills, and I can see when someone wants it both ways. You said that it did not evidence cherry picking. It most certainly does. It is, by definition, cherry picking.

But, I've about exhausted my points.

Which part of "conceding" slipped your grasp? If over half or Mississipians are female and 1/3 are black, yet the video included an overwhelming majority of white males, then it can hardly be representative of the actual population. This can be explained by either cherry-picking or by a poor or limited choice of areas in which to conduct the interviews. Either way, it is not representative by gender or race.

That said, both Ayaan and I, who were born and grew up there, assert that the opinions expressed in the interviews are, indeed, the prevailing opinions of the majority of Mississippians. I think that carries a little more weight than the opinion of someone who has briefly visited only a few of the larger cities in the state. Correct me if I'm wrong on this by demonstrating how the intimacy of your knowledge of the way people think in MS is greater than ours. This should be interesting.

[Drewish]

Why were no blacks interviewed? Why were no women interviewed? Not cherry picked my ass. Or so such blatant demographic selection not obvious to all you 'progressive' liberals?

[Ian]

You're a few pages late to the discussion. Please go back a ways and read.

[Drewish]

That's what I get for only reading the first 5 pages before posting. Coito pointed this out at the end of page 6.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Ya'll kin take yer librul agenda back to Yankeeland, yuh here>?