Noble Hero liberates some Afghanis from their horrid lives.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:48 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:CES is correct, above - the US did blow up a lot of caves in Afghanistan. The War on Caves was a total success....
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MOSCOW, Nov. 25 — The Qaeda military base called Zhawar Kili Al- Badr also has a nickname: Wolf's Hole.

Zhawar worms its way deep inside the walls of a gorge in the Sodyaki Ghar mountains of eastern Afghanistan, a half-mile lattice of caves and connecting tunnels barely 4,000 yards from the Pakistan border. The Soviet Army took it in 1986 during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, but only after 57 days of aerial bombardment and hand-to-hand combat.

"It was seized, blown up. Everything was blown up," Maj. Gen. Aleksandr Lyakhovsky, an Afghanistan veteran now retired from Russian military service, said in a recent interview. "And then the forces left. And in about six months or a year, they restored the base."

It is in a place like Zhawar, a mountain base called Tora Bora also near the Pakistan border, that the Afghan rumor mill now says Osama bin Laden is hiding with some 1,200 Taliban troops.
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Indeed, Pentagon documents for 2002 state that the military is already testing tunnel-destroying weapons at American proving grounds in the West, aimed specifically at "proliferant nations or terrorists with access to advanced conventional weapons or weapons of mass destruction."

With the United States' advanced detection devices and high-technology munitions, the network of Afghan caves and tunnels is neither as befuddling nor as impregnable as it was to the Soviets. The Pentagon says American warplanes have been bombing carefully selected caves and tunnels for weeks now, directing 500-pound bombs at their mouths to block the entrances and larger munitions to hit suspected weapons dumps and other strategic sites.

Mr. Rumsfeld said last month that some strikes had produced "enormous secondary explosions," sometimes continuing for hours after American jets first attacked.

But the system remains devilishly complex and easy to hide within. As even the Pentagon admits, the most heavily fortified parts, where Mr. bin Laden may be concealed, could well be invulnerable to the most powerful conventional bombs known.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:50 am

Woohoo! Those are some caves that will never again pose a threat to the USA. Now, back home in time for tea and medals.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:54 am

That might have been me if things had gone differently.
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Clinton Huxley wrote:Woohoo! Those are some caves that will never again pose a threat to the USA. Now, back home in time for tea and medals.
Woo hoo, indeed. Threat neutralized.

Not sure why in 2009 we needed to increase the troop levels in Afghanistan, though. Do you?

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Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:14 pm

So, the war on caves continues?

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:16 pm

There will need to be a war on something
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:28 pm

Yes, that is it. The only reason there are wars is because the United States must generate them for its own nefarious purposes. Everyone else just wants to get along.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:30 pm

Those caves had it coming
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Post by Audley Strange » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:32 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Yes, that is it. The only reason there are wars is because the United States must generate them for its own nefarious purposes. Everyone else just wants to get along.
Ever seen Blazing Saddles? Europe is Harvey Korman's "Hedley Lammar" and the U.S. is Mongo.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:35 pm

You have some excellent caves in the US, would have been cheaper and just as effective to bomb those
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:48 pm

Bomb one's own caves? Must be a British thing...

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:05 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Bomb one's own caves? Must be a British thing...
Well, the US could probably bomb our caves. Blue-on-blue or whatever they call it.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:35 pm

We wouldn't be able to bomb them as well as a proper English bombing could.

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Post by Audley Strange » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:37 pm

I say we find out where all the caves are hiding all over the world and then bomb them back to the stone age.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:39 pm

Audley Strange wrote:I say we find out where all the caves are hiding all over the world and then bomb them back to the stone age.

A War against troglophila!
The caves hide inside each other......pesky adversary, your cave.
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