What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

I'm not really into this political stuff or don't feel informed enough to come down either way.
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5%
I'm some kind of weird hybrid that hates government regulation, but wants wealth redistribution, or something like that. Stop trying to label me!
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10%
I'm a utilitarian socialist. I believe that central planning and a welfare state make society as a whole safer, wealthier, and more productive.
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5%
I'm a utilitarian capitalist. I believe that free trade and a reliance on personal responsibility lead to a safer, wealthier, and more productive society.
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20%
I'm a justice oriented socialist. I believe that people should only be held responsible for their own actions, not that of their parents, so a welfare state that helps give all children an equal opportunity at success is the only just way for society to function.
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20%
I'm a justice oriented capitalist. I believe that parents who are responsible should be able to give their child more opportunities than those who have more kids than they can afford. Inequality is not injustice, it will and should exist in any just society.
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15%
I'm a principled socialist. It's not about what's more efficient or trying to determine who deserves what. A society that sees caring for those in need as its moral obligation is a more moral society period.
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25%
I'm a principled capitalist. Individual property rights should not be compromised for anything. The needs of the many never justify using force against the few, even if that few is just one individual.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Lozzer » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:29 am

Warren Dew wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
Lozzer wrote:As I said, we didn't merge together as Multi-regional model would suggest. We had a shag here and there, but for the most part, we emigrated from Africa and replaced other 'human' populations throughout Europe
We have about as much Neanderthal ancestry as there is difference between the DNA of humans and chimps, or between males and females. That's a very substantial amount of interbreeding.

If you want to argue that we're not different races, that's a bad way to make the argument. A better argument would be to admit there was significant interbreeding - it might well have been complete mixing, if neanderthals were less than 5% of the human population before the mixing, as seems likely - but to argue that most of our DNA was shared with neanderthals in the first place, so the mixing didn't introduce many differences.
So you're saying whites are superior to everyone else?
Wow, what a leap into racism!

I challenge you to explain how anything in my post could be taken to mean that.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Warren Dew » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:55 pm

Lozzer wrote:Your racism
To the contrary, you were the one who brought up racial superiority, Lozzer. I guess your post is just living up to your avatar.

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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Drewish » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:59 pm

Certain Africans are superior jumpers, but statistical data has shown that blacks are more likely to get hit by cars at night (dark skin, not always an asset). Then again, white people are more prone to get skin cancer. I do like the variety in hair and eye color though. Some Asians (the oriental kind) have that extra fat layer under their skin so they have fewer wrinkles and also tend to be less hairy (which seems to be considered attractive right now). Of course they also tend to be short and lactose intolerant. Is anybody bothered by this? Is it racist to point our stuff like this? I don't think people should be or that it is. Perhaps this has become a whole new topic.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Lozzer » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:54 pm

[quote="andrewclunn"]Certain Africans are superior jumpers, but statistical data has shown that blacks are more likely to get hit by cars at night (dark skin, not always an asset). Then again, white people are more prone to get skin cancer. I do like the variety in hair and eye color though. Some Asians (the oriental kind) have that extra fat layer under their skin so they have fewer wrinkles and also tend to be less hairy (which seems to be considered attractive right now). Of course they also tend to be short and lactose intolerant. Is anybody bothered by this? Is it racist to point our stuff like this? I don't think people should be or that it is. Perhaps this has become a whole new topic.[/quote]
And runners, too.

But ethnicity is an irrelevance.

The world's fastest runners and jumper come from one, specific geographical location in Kenya which has a strong tradition of encouraging physical activity, and nurturing future Olympic competitors.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Drewish » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:11 pm

Um, no it's not irrelevance. This is what I'm hearing:

Genes impacting how people develop?! Ancestry impacting the genes you have? Evolution, genetic mutations, natural selection, and the like all impacting humanity just like any other animal? But, but, but, that offends me! It says that all people are not created equal, that race is a real thing, and that we are not all the same!!! How can that be?!!!

Please tell me this is not your position.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Lozzer » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:20 pm

andrewclunn wrote:Um, no it's not irrelevance. This is what I'm hearing:

Genes impacting how people develop?! Ancestry impacting the genes you have? Evolution, genetic mutations, natural selection, and the like all impacting humanity just like any other animal? But, but, but, that offends me! It says that all people are not created equal, that race is a real thing, and that we are not all the same!!! How can that be?!!!

Please tell me this is not your position.
It isn't, I just have nothing but contempt for people who put things like this on 'racial' reasoning alone.

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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Drewish » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:25 pm

Dude, don't quote Slate at me. I'd wipe my ass with that French rag if it came in print form. I'm well aware of the, "IT HAS TO BE ENVIRONMENTAL!!!" bullshit that gets pushed, their flimsy anecdotal evidence, and message. So hey, if genetics really plays so little a role, and environmental factors are so strong, then I guess this whole, "People don't get to choose to be gay," thing must be BS too. I mean we haven't identified a gay gene, and some identical twins differ in their sexuality, so the religious right must be right! Gayness is a choice.
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