Stephen Hawking Frequents Sex Club In California: Report

[Ronja]

Twofy, it's not that simple or straightforward. I've been talking about my experiences with a rather clearly (mainly geographically and linguistically, but also through career choice) limited group of friends.

. I have to get to bed now, but will gladly continue ALD.

Coito, I guess I'll have to convince MiM to write about his and his best friends' and brothers' experiences - maybe then you will believe that it is not a pure female angle but a geek and sociocultural one. At least at our fraternity, and likely also more widely in the (Swedish-speaking?) academic subculture of Finland.

You see, I listen to the guys I study and work with. Over a coffee at the office/cafeteria or over a beer after classes/work. Have listened for the last 25 years, and more. And they listen to me and talk to me, and most of the time - even when we were younger - not to hit on me but as friends, honest and often even close friends. Sometimes fucking friends, too, before we all settled down in more or less stable pairs, but primarily as people who care about each other as human beings. And none of these 20-30 close-enough-to-really-talk male engineers can stand women who are true airheads/bimbos, and they dislike intelligent women who play dumb even more. Looks are indeed secondary for them. Not non-existent, but definitely secondary compared to being smart and passionate.

To put it very bluntly: why would we - men or women geeks from my extended friendship circle - want to fuck anyone who we do not want to wake up beside or be seen in public with? Sex is best with friends one trusts, in our experience. And we don't trust someone who does not think.

[Coito ergo sum]

I certainly will not try to argue with you about your circle of friends, nor do I that that what you said detracts from my theorem. It seems to me that you've simply argued that men and women are the same in this regard, and that men seek women who are "good at stuff" as much as women do of men. I don't see it that way, and I suppose, perhaps, our experiences differ. I can only give you one male's perspective from a lifetime of experience. I know it works, so if a man is finding he is having a hard time hooking up with women, it is a good piece of advice for him to get out there and figure out something he can enjoy and become good or skilled at. It covers so many of the things commonly found among women's "what they look for in men" lists that one can google -- passion, confidence, skill, ability, intelligence -- being good at something helps fill a lot of these items on the list.

If you think that it's equally applicable to men, then you may be right. I'm sure that it can't hurt, that's for sure.