What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

I'm not really into this political stuff or don't feel informed enough to come down either way.
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5%
I'm some kind of weird hybrid that hates government regulation, but wants wealth redistribution, or something like that. Stop trying to label me!
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10%
I'm a utilitarian socialist. I believe that central planning and a welfare state make society as a whole safer, wealthier, and more productive.
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5%
I'm a utilitarian capitalist. I believe that free trade and a reliance on personal responsibility lead to a safer, wealthier, and more productive society.
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20%
I'm a justice oriented socialist. I believe that people should only be held responsible for their own actions, not that of their parents, so a welfare state that helps give all children an equal opportunity at success is the only just way for society to function.
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20%
I'm a justice oriented capitalist. I believe that parents who are responsible should be able to give their child more opportunities than those who have more kids than they can afford. Inequality is not injustice, it will and should exist in any just society.
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15%
I'm a principled socialist. It's not about what's more efficient or trying to determine who deserves what. A society that sees caring for those in need as its moral obligation is a more moral society period.
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25%
I'm a principled capitalist. Individual property rights should not be compromised for anything. The needs of the many never justify using force against the few, even if that few is just one individual.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Tyrannical » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:28 pm

Wow loozer, I had no idea you were so misinformed about humans.
Classifying all humans as one subspecies is purely a Christian religious doctronice originating from God creating man.
Intelligent people should know better :lol:

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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Warren Dew » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:33 am

Tyrannical wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Our Founding Fathers: I believe that a strong moral faith in Christianity, racial homogeneity, free trade and a reliance on personal responsibility leads to a safer, wealthier, and more morally just society.
So does that make you in favor of maximizing interracial marriages so we can homogenize the races and achieve "racial homogeneity" as quickly as possible?
No, I am against race mixing.
But you already knew that I'm sure. Perhaps you were just trying to get my goat, or should I say my Liger :{D
Mostly I was pulling your chain, yes. However, it does seem that there are some benefits in terms of societal cohesion to racial and cultural homogeneity; that's part of the reason why some things that work in relatively homogeneous states in northern Europe don't work in the U.S. And I really do think that the only realistic route to racial homogeneity in the U.S., if that's what one wants, is a few generations of thorough mixing.

Much as you might like to believe it would be better to send the African Americans back to Africa, the Asian Americans back to Asia, and the European Americans back to Europe, that's really not realistic from a practical standpoint.
Now I know you are in a mixed race relationship, and I don't want to criticize you or your family since I'm not quite so mean as I'm made out to be. But I'm sure there are Asians in your (in-law) family tree that also disproves on racial grounds.
I guess I'm in a mixed race relationship, but that's only because I'm mixed race myself!

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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by JimC » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:52 am

MrJonno wrote:
Rum wrote:Interesting set of choices. I am a hybrid of a number of the socialist options, mellowed over the last thirty years from being a pretty heavy duty socialist worker type, man the barricades and all that, to someone who hates to see the rich exploiting the poor and getting away with it. So to me fairness and justice are important as are the values associated with compassion for one's fellow human beings.
Probably a mixture of them as well but I will settle with whatever version Seth thinks is the most evil
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Lozzer » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:06 am

Tyrannical wrote:Wow loozer, I had no idea you were so misinformed about humans.
Classifying all humans as one subspecies is purely a Christian religious doctronice originating from God creating man.
Intelligent people should know better :lol:
We aren't a 'subspecies', we're a species.

This is basic biology, dude. It has nothing to do with 'Christianity'
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:09 am

Actually, what's worse, non Africans are hybrids of two or three subspecies, two of them extinct.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Lozzer » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:17 am

Svartalf wrote:Actually, what's worse, non Africans are hybrids of two or three subspecies, two of them extinct.
We're not significantly interbred with Neanderthals, though. It's thought that our ancestors didn't 'interbreed' with other human populations in Europe so much as they replaced them, entirely.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:35 am

Well, we still do have DNA that we don't share with African populations and that has also been found in Neandertal remains... what do you make of that?
Oh, I forgot, you don't, because you're pure Piltdown man :tongue:
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Lozzer » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:25 pm

Svartalf wrote:Well, we still do have DNA that we don't share with African populations and that has also been found in Neandertal remains... what do you make of that?
Oh, I forgot, you don't, because you're pure Piltdown man :tongue:
As I said, we didn't merge together as Multi-regional model would suggest. We had a shag here and there, but for the most part, we emigrated from Africa and replaced other 'human' populations throughout Europe
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Drewish » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:56 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Wow loozer, I had no idea you were so misinformed about humans.
Classifying all humans as one subspecies is purely a Christian religious doctronice originating from God creating man.
Intelligent people should know better :lol:
Oh no, I'm agreeing with Tyrannical. This could be bad.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Drewish » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:57 pm

So thus far there are 5 people who have answered the poll, with whom it's completely pointless to discuss issues of ethics and economics (Anyone who answered with the last two answers is a lost cause.)
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by laklak » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:07 pm

Well, I believe that babies should be sold to the highest bidder, on the open market. Perhaps set up a display next to the bluefin tuna. But I also believe that all women should be encouraged, in the spirit of communal solidarity, to shag me. So I guess I'm for a mixed economy, neh?
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Drewish » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:11 pm

laklak wrote:Well, I believe that babies should be sold to the highest bidder, on the open market. Perhaps set up a display next to the bluefin tuna. But I also believe that all women should be encouraged, in the spirit of communal solidarity, to shag me. So I guess I'm for a mixed economy, neh?
But that will just have the effect of reducing the $ you can get for your offspring by flooding the market!
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by laklak » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:13 pm

Ah, but if I knock them up then no one else can. It's a zero-sum game.
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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by PsychoSerenity » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:28 pm

andrewclunn wrote:So thus far there are 5 people who have answered the poll, with whom it's completely pointless to discuss issues of ethics and economics (Anyone who answered with the last two answers is a lost cause.)
How so? I think you may be thinking something that didn't come across clearly in the different options you created. A few people have said that they're a mixture of several options. I don't think you can write people off because their world view best approximates, out of limited options, to something you've summed up in a couple of words. Those words will have different meanings to different people.
[Disclaimer - if this is comes across like I think I know what I'm talking about, I want to make it clear that I don't. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down]

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Re: What type of Capitalist / Socialist are you?

Post by Drewish » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:40 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:
andrewclunn wrote:So thus far there are 5 people who have answered the poll, with whom it's completely pointless to discuss issues of ethics and economics (Anyone who answered with the last two answers is a lost cause.)
How so? I think you may be thinking something that didn't come across clearly in the different options you created. A few people have said that they're a mixture of several options. I don't think you can write people off because their world view best approximates, out of limited options, to something you've summed up in a couple of words. Those words will have different meanings to different people.
If Freedom or equality is more important than justice to an individual, then I have no grounds upon which to have a discussion with them. If one of the last two options are the best fit for somebody then they are a brainwashed dip shit who isn't worth my time. FACT.
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