Fuckwitted Brit rescue personnel let man drown

[Seth]

World Inquiry Opens in Case of UK Man Who Drowned as Firefighters Refused to Help Citing Safety Rules

In a story that seems too unbelievable to be true, a charity shop worker drowned in a shallow lake in Gosport, England, after firemen and rescue workers stood by and refused to help. The man, 41-year-old Simon Burgess, fell into the water while feeding swans and was left there until a rescue team with individuals who were legally able to assist reached him 28 minutes later. And while the incident occurred last spring, officials are starting to hear testimony in an official inquiry this week.

The firemen, who were reportedly only 25 feet away from the man, allegedly refused to rescue the man, as they cited health and safety regulations. And a police officer who arrived after learning about the incident was reportedly called back after he started moving into the ankle-deep water to rescue the man.

Nor did any bystanders tell the police and firefighters to fuck off and jump in to help the poor guy.

Fucking fuckwitted servile Brits.

Here's how it's done, asshats:

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[Rum]

You are living up to your reputation for bending facts to suit your own spiteful negative world view.

If you had read the full story you would have seen that the man in question had been established as dead. This from the BBC.

They still should have got the body out in my view, but there was no rescuing to be done.

[Pappa]

It wasn't too long ago that you posted something about US cops not being obliged to rescue people in danger (or some such) Seth.

[Atheist-Lite]

It would have been a different story if it had been a pet dog. Like flies in a jam jar for a dog over here...

[Seth]

You are living up to your reputation for bending facts to suit your own spiteful negative world view.

If you had read the full story you would have seen that the man in question had been established as dead. This from the BBC.

They still should have got the body out in my view, but there was no rescuing to be done.

He was most certainly dead after desperately trying to survive for 28 minutes while the fuckwits watched. How could they "establish he was dead" without actually going out to the body and checking for a pulse? Ever hear of the phenomenon of people recovering after long periods underwater when the water is cold?

I suspect the BBC is skewing things so it's not so much of an embarrassment to the government.

And it's not a spiteful negative world view, it's a negative view of servile and cowardly Brits at this point.

Three fucking feet of water and the pussies didn't want to go after him?

Bah.

[Seth]

It wasn't too long ago that you posted something about US cops not being obliged to rescue people in danger (or some such) Seth.

There's no LEGAL requirement. That doesn't mean they can't (and won't) be called pussies and cowards for not doing so. And in this case it was three fucking feet of water, not the ice-covered Potomac River.

Bah, humbug.

[Gallstones]

I understand the impulse to want to do something to help but Roger Olian is not a hero.
He made himself another casualty and distracted the rescue team when they showed up.

[Rum]

You are living up to your reputation for bending facts to suit your own spiteful negative world view.

If you had read the full story you would have seen that the man in question had been established as dead. This from the BBC.

They still should have got the body out in my view, but there was no rescuing to be done.

He was most certainly dead after desperately trying to survive for 28 minutes while the fuckwits watched. How could they "establish he was dead" without actually going out to the body and checking for a pulse? Ever hear of the phenomenon of people recovering after long periods underwater when the water is cold?

I suspect the BBC is skewing things so it's not so much of an embarrassment to the government.

And it's not a spiteful negative world view, it's a negative view of servile and cowardly Brits at this point.

Three fucking feet of water and the pussies didn't want to go after him?

Bah.

What a load of self serving bullshit. The BBC is not a government tool. Please however feel free to continue to ignore the facts you wish to in order to confirm all your prejudices and further convince me of your troll credentials.

[Bella Fortuna]

If you still need convincing, Rum, you haven't been paying attention. He's just grabbing the low-hanging fruit, troll-wise.

[Rum]

If you still need convincing, Rum, you haven't been paying attention. He's just grabbing the low-hanging fruit, troll-wise.

Just occasionally I think he is expressing a genuinely held view. I would respect that, even though I disagree with all of them pretty well. Actually respect is too strong a word - 'put up with' is nearer the mark.

Then I see the big spoon come out and I am reminded of what he really is..

[Bella Fortuna]

If you still need convincing, Rum, you haven't been paying attention. He's just grabbing the low-hanging fruit, troll-wise.

Just occasionally I think he is expressing a genuinely held view. I would respect that, even though I disagree with all of them pretty well. Actually respect is too strong a word - 'put up with' is nearer the mark.

Then I see the big spoon come out and I am reminded of what he really is..

The easiest way to deal with him - if not outright not reading what he writes - is to assume that everything is bait and designed to provoke a response. In that frame of mind you can assign it the weight it deserves.

[John_fi_Skye]

If you still need convincing, Rum, you haven't been paying attention. He's just grabbing the low-hanging fruit, troll-wise.

Just occasionally I think he is expressing a genuinely held view. I would respect that, even though I disagree with all of them pretty well. Actually respect is too strong a word - 'put up with' is nearer the mark.

Then I see the big spoon come out and I am reminded of what he really is..

The easiest way to deal with him - if not outright not reading what he writes - is to assume that everything is bait and designed to provoke a response. In that frame of mind you can assign it the weight it deserves.

I wish I were that patient - especially when I've had a drink or three. Anyway, a certain individual is now my "Foe", and I hope that'll help me not to say the things I want to say. I envy all you patient folk. I just want to swear a lot.

[mistermack]

I absolutely agree with Seth about this incident. It was cowardice in the extreme, and to hide behind health and safety is disgusting.
But you get the fire service you deserve. Firemen get killed, and they prosecute the officers in charge. They don't get defended from above, they get thrown to the wolves as a scapegoat. It's happening now, over a case where some firemen died in a factory fire.

So you end up with people covering their own asses, as in this case. If you were in charge, what would you do, knowing you could lose your job or even face prosecution?

It's the pathetic people who come in after an incident, with their 20/20 hindsight, criticising those who had to make a spot decision. They are the problem. So now, everyone covers their own back, and won't take a chance. And the public and the press are also to blame, for listening to these assholes, and not putting themselve in the place of the people who have to make a snap decision.

So weird as it seems, it's assholes like Seth, and the rest of us, who would also be just as critical if a fireman had drowned, that are the real problem. We create the situation where people are covering their own backs. We are to blame.

And it's a bit rich, coming from Seth, extending this to a National characteristic of the Brits.
Coming from a country that took TWO YEARS OF LEAVING WW2 to the Brits, before they got the courage to fight. And actually, they had no choice then, as Hitler declared war on THEM.

Someone from the worlds most cowardly nation, calling other nations cowards is the height of hypocrisy.

[Rum]

Read the whole story.

[Thinking Aloud]

I absolutely agree with Seth about this incident. It was cowardice in the extreme, and to hide behind health and safety is disgusting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-17131333

A Hampshire Fire and Rescue spokesman said: "Let us be clear, the decisions taken at the Walpole Lake incident had nothing to do with health and safety or the depth of the water.

"On arrival at the scene, the officer and crews saw a body face down and submerged in the water, who we now know to be Mr Simon Burgess.

"That person was unresponsive and showing no visible signs of life. Based on this assessment, they prepared for the arrival of one of the service's specialist water rescue unit to undertake a dignified retrieval of the individual from the water.

"Our officers and staff clearly stated, that if they saw any signs of life and the individual could be saved, they would have gone in to the water and followed rescue procedures."

Of course, anyone here is free to make an armchair assessment of the incident with the benefit of speculation and hindsight and whatever coloured goggles they choose to view it through, and conclude whatever they like.