The psychedelia conundrum

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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:28 am

Seraph wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:...attempting to create coherent art while actually under the influence of such things is pointless.

Just as any load of old bollocks can sound incredible and profound while tripping, anything created during a trip (which may seem incredible and profound at the time) usually turns out to be a load of old bollocks!
You have just described the nature of some of my dreams.
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Hermit » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:42 am

Yeah! Uncanny, ain't it? Reckon there's something really profound behind it.
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:25 am

Seraph wrote:Yeah! Uncanny, ain't it? Reckon there's something really profound behind it.
Awesome! I'm going to write a song about it and set it to the music of wind chimes and whales, man! :ab: :dance: :tut:
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by laklak » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:44 am

Whale music. Whoa, dude. Fuckin whales.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Robert_S » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:15 am

Audley Strange wrote:Yes! In many cases that is exactly it. They make the mundane profound. They turn twaddle into divine revelation. This is exactly why people compare it to the religious experience.
Experiencing that the difference between mundane and profound is just a matter my brain interpreting stuff has been the greatest benefit I've had from the stuff.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Svartalf » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:42 am

laklak wrote:Whale music. Whoa, dude. Fuckin whales.
You don't need to be high to enjoy whale songs
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Robert_S » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:44 am

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laklak wrote:Whale music. Whoa, dude. Fuckin whales.
You don't need to be high to enjoy whale songs
But to try to dance to them...
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by FBM » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:38 am

Robert_S wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
laklak wrote:Whale music. Whoa, dude. Fuckin whales.
You don't need to be high to enjoy whale songs
But to try to dance to them...

Or sing along. Drugs would help either way...
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Rum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:09 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Having been there and returned certainly frees ones imagination. Sergeant Pepper would never have been created without psychedelic assistance. However, attempting to create coherent art while actually under the influence of such things is pointless.

Just as any load of old bollocks can sound incredible and profound while tripping, anything created during a trip (which may seem incredible and profound at the time) usually turns out to be a load of old bollocks!
How very true. Over a four year period I took acid maybe 30 times. The last year all the experiences were pretty horrible I must say - actually very horrible a few times. But early on some of the experiences 'felt' profound and pseudo religious. Once I found god/meaning/the universe in a patch of moss and coloured stone on the wall just outside my front door.

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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:40 am

I can remember being irritated beyond measure while tripping by music that I ordinarily liked.
I can't say that I ever experienced anything resembling a religious experience or deep insight while under the influence of either acid or 'shrooms.
The freakiest trip I had was while in a club in town called 'Vogue' (now long gone) when a huge fight broke out complete with fire extinguisher (powder type, I think) going off. - I couldn't get out of that place to somewhere nice and quiet fast enough.
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:15 pm

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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Audley Strange » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:10 pm

In court.

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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Rum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:15 pm

Audley Strange wrote:In court.

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You went to court tripping?!

I remember freaking cos I had to pay bus fare and was panicking over counting the coins!

(I normally avoided this sort of situation obviously, but sometimes..)

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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Trinity » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:42 pm

I went to a carnival with some friends (with majorettes and everything :roll: ) and took some mushrooms. I was enjoying everything until I started to feel like I wet myself and got "spongy" teeth. Weirdest sensations and I was constantly checking my trousers to see if they were wet and clamping my teeth together! Then I bought a curry and couldn't eat it cos I thought my teeth would fall out. After getting unbelievably paranoid I fell on the floor laughing. I did shrooms a few more times but just got really morose and introspective. I think I was too uptight to really get into the flow. The most trippy thing I did was some salvia, smoked it and for 15 intense minutes I was seeing everything 3D (like those books you have to look at with soft focus). The everything went split screen and tilted and then I completely freaked out and ran the length of the building trying to run away from myself whilst my ex was shouting at me saying it would all go away in a minute :funny:
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Re: The psychedelia conundrum

Post by Rum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:01 pm

Salvia seems to have a bad reputation.

I do remember a wonderful if minor hallucination one which you have reminded me of. Running my tongue along my teeth and as I did each one lit up and played a chiming note!

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