First Woman US President?

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Re: First Woman US President?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:46 pm

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But, when an American uses the term "head of state" or "head of government" they mean the same thing.Coito ergo sum


Americans should learn that the rest of the world is not America and does not do things the American way. A presumption of similarity is a sign of intellectual laziness and a lack of curiosity.
Look - it's not just "America." Don't for a second pretend that Brits don't do the same thing from time to time. I've encountered many Brits who don't get the difference between the US system and the British system, and the separation of legislative from executive functions in government.

However, I'm no defender of Sarah Palin, but to say "head of state" and "head of government" and use them interchangeably is just about vocabulary, not intellectual thinking.

And, again, technically, your "head of state" is a figurehead, and in reality the head of state - for all FUNCTIONAL purposes is the same as your head of government. Your Queen is NOMINALLY a head of state, but in reality she has very little in the way of functional power beyond that of a rubber stamp and ceremonial.

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Post by MrJonno » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:56 pm

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Clinton Huxley wrote:Read something about Palin thinking the Queen was head of the UK Govt rather than Head of State and had executive powers that actually vest in the PM and in Parliament.

Doh! Still you can't see the UK from Alaska, so I suppose its an understandable slip.
In the US there isn't a distinction between head of government and head of state. And, in reality in the UK and parliamentary democracy the head of state role is pretty much ceremonial. There really isn't a "state" separate from the government.

But, when an American uses the term "head of state" or "head of government" they mean the same thing.
I thought when Americans used head of state/government they meant 'the people' and if any evil but elected poltician passed any laws they didnt like they could have a revolution
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Re: First Woman US President?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:58 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Read something about Palin thinking the Queen was head of the UK Govt rather than Head of State and had executive powers that actually vest in the PM and in Parliament.

Doh! Still you can't see the UK from Alaska, so I suppose its an understandable slip.
In the US there isn't a distinction between head of government and head of state. And, in reality in the UK and parliamentary democracy the head of state role is pretty much ceremonial. There really isn't a "state" separate from the government.

But, when an American uses the term "head of state" or "head of government" they mean the same thing.
I thought when Americans used head of state/government they meant 'the people' and if any evil but elected poltician passed any laws they didnt like they could have a revolution
That's really what you thought?

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:07 pm

Typical American parochialism.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:14 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:Typical American parochialism.
That's rich. A Brit, indicting anyone for parochialism. What was that about pots and kettles?

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Re: First Woman US President?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:49 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Read something about Palin thinking the Queen was head of the UK Govt rather than Head of State and had executive powers that actually vest in the PM and in Parliament.

Doh! Still you can't see the UK from Alaska, so I suppose its an understandable slip.
In the US there isn't a distinction between head of government and head of state. And, in reality in the UK and parliamentary democracy the head of state role is pretty much ceremonial. There really isn't a "state" separate from the government.

But, when an American uses the term "head of state" or "head of government" they mean the same thing.
But why do American women slap me rather than gift me with presidential merch when I nicely ask them to give me head?
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:51 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Typical American parochialism.
That's rich. A Brit, indicting anyone for parochialism. What was that about pots and kettles?
It's all relative, old chap.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:55 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Typical American parochialism.
That's rich. A Brit, indicting anyone for parochialism. What was that about pots and kettles?
It's all relative, old chap.
Just typical British snobbery and effrontery...

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Re: First Woman US President?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:31 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Typical American parochialism.
That's rich. A Brit, indicting anyone for parochialism. What was that about pots and kettles?
It's all relative, old chap.
Just typical British snobbery and effrontery...
And you love it.
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Re: First Woman US President?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:48 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:Typical American parochialism.
That's rich. A Brit, indicting anyone for parochialism. What was that about pots and kettles?
It's all relative, old chap.
Just typical British snobbery and effrontery...
And you love it.
Damn limeys. :lay:

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Re: First Woman US President?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:49 pm

If you Johnnies hadn't rebelled, we could be living in the Anglo-globe right now, and everyone would be better off. All that fuss, just because you wanted to call the damn things "sprinkles"
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Post by amused » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:56 pm

Elizabeth Warren - 2020 or so, if she wins Senator in Massachusetts

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Re: First Woman US President?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:03 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:If you Johnnies hadn't rebelled, we could be living in the Anglo-globe right now, and everyone would be better off. All that fuss, just because you wanted to call the damn things "sprinkles"
All you had to do was give us a few seats in Parliament, stop quartering soldiers in our homes, and stop dissolving our legislatures for opposing his abuses with manly firmness... oh, and the tax on tea. I mean, for serious?

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