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Rick Santorum

Post by kiki5711 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:08 pm

says that he DOES NOT believe Insurance COmpanies should provide free pre natal care because it leads (according to him) to more abortions

he is against abortion even in worst case scenarios such as rape and incest. says that "we should just make best of the situation"

is against federal funding for public schools, he says that he HOMESCHOOLED his 7 kids and that education should be dealt with (I don't know how exactly) on the local level.

is against any federal funds going to "planned parenthood".

:begging: :worried:

I cannot, just cannot beleive he's saying those things and ACTUALLY means them!!!!!!!.

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Ian » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:15 pm

Believe it. And he could very well end up on the GOP ticket, which would end in an unmitigated catastrophe for the Republican Party as we know it.

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Audley Strange » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:10 pm

Is he the one that sacrifices babies to his dark god or the one that only comes out at night and bathes in the blood of virgins? They're all so bizarre it's hard to keep up with their shenanigans.
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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:25 pm

I don't disagree with him on the federal funding for schools. States and localities did better at educating children than after the federal government involved itself. Our system keeps getting worse.

I don't have a problem with there being insurance coverage for prenatal care, but mandating that all policies must cover prenatal care seems like something that it is not unreasonable to be against. Like any voluntarily chosen expense, it may well, arguably, be said by those who choose not to have kids, that the burden should call on those who do have kids to pay their own way.

Regarding abortions - he's nuts.

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by amused » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:44 pm

Why is the religion dementia so frequently tied in to the obsession with sex dementia?

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by eXcommunicate » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:02 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:I don't have a problem with there being insurance coverage for prenatal care, but mandating that all policies must cover prenatal care seems like something that it is not unreasonable to be against. Like any voluntarily chosen expense, it may well, arguably, be said by those who choose not to have kids, that the burden should call on those who do have kids to pay their own way.
Kind of defeats the purpose of the cost-splitting benefits of insurance to just have the burden fall parents. You could make your argument for just about any kind of activity covered by insurance:

The burden for paying for broken arms occurring while riding bikes should only fall on those who ride bikes. Why buy insurance then?
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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Warren Dew » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:00 pm

eXcommunicate wrote:Kind of defeats the purpose of the cost-splitting benefits of insurance to just have the burden fall parents. You could make your argument for just about any kind of activity covered by insurance:

The burden for paying for broken arms occurring while riding bikes should only fall on those who ride bikes. Why buy insurance then?
The primary reason for buying insurance is normally risk averseness, not generalized cost splitting. People who ride bikes might still buy biker's insurance, since they'd rather pay a low periodic fee than have a broken arm strike when they're not ready for it.

Of course, Santorum's argument not to cover prenatal care has nothing to do with Coito's argument to make it optional; in the context of our current society, both arguments are wrong, but in very different ways.

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by eXcommunicate » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:05 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
eXcommunicate wrote:Kind of defeats the purpose of the cost-splitting benefits of insurance to just have the burden fall parents. You could make your argument for just about any kind of activity covered by insurance:

The burden for paying for broken arms occurring while riding bikes should only fall on those who ride bikes. Why buy insurance then?
The primary reason for buying insurance is normally risk averseness, not generalized cost splitting.
The risk aversion is accomplished through cost splitting.
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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Warren Dew » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:22 pm

eXcommunicate wrote:
Warren Dew wrote:The primary reason for buying insurance is normally risk averseness, not generalized cost splitting.
The risk aversion is accomplished through cost splitting.
Cost splitting is not the same thing as generalized cost splitting. We don't force everyone to buy car insurance - only the people who own cars.

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Rum » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:33 pm

Seems to me that the Republicans are out-bidding themselves as to how unelectable they can get!

This is of course an excellent strategy!

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Warren Dew » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:43 am

Rum wrote:Seems to me that the Republicans are out-bidding themselves as to how unelectable they can get!
Bush won twice on the strength of turnout from the religious right.

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by kiki5711 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:07 am

don't have a problem with there being insurance coverage for prenatal care, but mandating that all policies must cover prenatal care seems like something that it is not unreasonable to be against. Like any voluntarily chosen expense, it may well, arguably, be said by those who choose not to have kids, that the burden should call on those who do have kids to pay their own way.
I had pre natal insurnce coverage when I had my son and that was 16 yrs ago. As far as I understood it, I thought all insurance had that. It is a one package deal until birth. Any and all test done pre natal were covered as well. You only had to pay your co pay for the birth.

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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:17 am

Why do I have the horrible feeling that we will one day look back on the reign of George Bush Junior as a golden age....?
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Re: Rick Santorum

Post by Lozzer » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:00 pm

All this blabber about insurance. Just get a national health service, primitives.
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