Evolution for fundamentalists

[Tero]

They ask questions. I answer, they ignore it. He asked why life was not evolving still, like it did in the beginning.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/science/ref ... NIGVID1WJW

enjoy.

I'll pull some quotes from there from time to time. The post are so hard to follow I will give the permalink or just the quote.

[Tero]

Note to self : irreducibly c. heart
Plus youtube embryo video

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Tero, Kenneth Miller sometimes wears a very interesting tie clip. It's a mouse trap with the trigger clip removed. He's removed a part of the mousetrap and it now functions as something else, "albeit poorly" in his words. So the mouse trap example is debunked right there.

I'm having fun with that one.

[Tero]

The heart chamber evolution story
http://ncse.com/creationism/analysis/mammalian-hearts

and here is the creationist claim
http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/sh ... hp/id/1113

There is a youtube video on the embryo heart if anyone is interested.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

http://humanorigins.si.edu/

[Tero]

Now this Richard is babbling again. I think I have a general idea, and I see complete sentences, but still, I have no idea what went on for four days. too hard to follow.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/science/ref ... TN845WTWF1

The rational comment there:

Now I realise that you think that people voting down your posts consists of some sort of suppression of information. My hypothesis is that it's the ranting and ad hominem attacks that they don't like, but as I never press the "no" button, how would I know other people's motives. Frankly, when looking through old threads I'm always drawn to those "hidden" posts (of course, easily revealed) as they usually say something outrageous.

You have to be logged in to see what is blocked as not helpful.

[Tero]

He (Mohammed):

You took molecules for granted as if scientists created them by magical research.

In fact molecules are more mysterious than you think.

Take the simplest molecule of hydrogen. Schroedinger wave equation was solved for the hydrogen atom, not the molecule. But even for the hydrogen atom, schroedinger equation could never predict the freezing point of hydrogen, the enthalpy of phase change, or maximal conductivity at low temperatures.

For the hydrogen molecules, we have no means to accurately predict the physical properties of hydrogen from the constants of the subatomic components of hydrogen such electron and proton masses.

Me:

Yeah, that is a problem. I mean the interpretation.

I run into young people who had a semester of physics and chemistry. Then they go to these extreme large and small scales and POOF, a magical world opens.

I have the hardest time convincing chemistry students that molecules are three dimensional objects. They must be, otherwise large objects would not be either. The practical end of the atom, the only one we normally deal with, is the bond, the electrons.

[Tero]

Creationist thinks moon rock data was falsified
http://www.amazon.com/forum/science/ref ... 8CVSX5R9JF

[Tero]

The chew toy of the week, Ricky, at amputees board
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forum ... #msg486424

[Tero]

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"You can't just look at the flaws, you have to look at the wonderful as well. The wonderful outweighs the flaws. Therefore God."

[Tero]

Yeah. You may get orgasm and flatulence at the same time.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yeah. You may get orgasm and flatulence at the same time.

Friend of mine got a hooker with diarrhea one time, San Juan, Puerto Rico.

[Tero]

And this "friend" paid full price for services?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And this "friend" paid full price for services?

One of the guys off my ship, and yeah, $15 (full price). The diarrhea was not part of the bargain, and he was a bit miffed about it.