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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:53 pm

Animavore wrote:
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She married Joseph and accompanied him to Bethlehem, where Jesus was born.[3] In keeping with Jewish custom, the betrothal would have taken place when she was around 12, and the birth of Jesus about a year later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_(moth ... ite_note-6

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=376399
Ok. Now show documentation that 12 was below the age of consent in Judea at that time (I could also ask what is 'underage' as far as God is concerned but I'm being generous).
...dude...I get it...they didn't have such a thing as an "age of consent" in Judea... the whole concept would have been alien to them.

It was meant to be a funny statement about god fucking a 12 year old girl, impregnating her, etc.

The Judeans didn't have a child support regime either. So what?

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Re: Obama called to Georgia court to defend primary eligibli

Post by Svartalf » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:54 pm

Actually, if you're a student of comparative religion, and given that Aisha is the most holy woman in islam, it's obvious that Mary was 9 at the time she conceived.
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Re: Obama called to Georgia court to defend primary eligibli

Post by Animavore » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:56 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
She married Joseph and accompanied him to Bethlehem, where Jesus was born.[3] In keeping with Jewish custom, the betrothal would have taken place when she was around 12, and the birth of Jesus about a year later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_(moth ... ite_note-6

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=376399
Ok. Now show documentation that 12 was below the age of consent in Judea at that time (I could also ask what is 'underage' as far as God is concerned but I'm being generous).
...dude...I get it...they didn't have such a thing as an "age of consent" in Judea... the whole concept would have been alien to them.

It was meant to be a funny statement about god fucking a 12 year old girl, impregnating her, etc.

The Judeans didn't have a child support regime either. So what?
I know. I was being cheeky :tut:
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Re: Obama called to Georgia court to defend primary eligibli

Post by amused » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:57 pm

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amused wrote:So.... What's an 'unnatural' birth? :ask:
If Jesus had been born in America, he could never have become President.
The thumpers would never vote for Jesus anyway - he was a Marxist, a Progressive, and he hung out with people of questionable moral character.

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Re: Obama called to Georgia court to defend primary eligibli

Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:01 pm

amused wrote:
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amused wrote:So.... What's an 'unnatural' birth? :ask:
If Jesus had been born in America, he could never have become President.
The thumpers would never vote for Jesus anyway - he was a Marxist, a Progressive, and he hung out with people of questionable moral character.
The Rethuglicans need to rebrand Jeebus a bit...
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Re: Obama called to Georgia court to defend primary eligibli

Post by klr » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:26 pm

Jesus: Questionable parentage, no record of what he did during his formative years, made his own wine while still a minor, never went to college, never learned to drive, associated with Mary Magdalene ... not exactly Republican presidential candidate material.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:29 pm

klr wrote:Jesus: Questionable parentage, no record of what he did during his formative years, made his own wine while still a minor, never went to college, never learned to drive, associated with Mary Magdalene ... not exactly Republican presidential candidate material.
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Post by amused » Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:13 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:
amused wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
amused wrote:So.... What's an 'unnatural' birth? :ask:
If Jesus had been born in America, he could never have become President.
The thumpers would never vote for Jesus anyway - he was a Marxist, a Progressive, and he hung out with people of questionable moral character.
The Rethuglicans need to rebrand Jeebus a bit...
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Re: Obama called to Georgia court to defend primary eligibli

Post by Thumpalumpacus » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:25 am

I guess it's not only Republicans who inject religion into politics, eh?
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Re: Obama called to Georgia court to defend primary eligibli

Post by amused » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:48 am

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politic ... 30300.html
President Barack Obama’s name will remain on the Georgia primary ballot after a state law judge flatly rejected legal challenges that contend he can not be a candidate.

In a 10-page order, Judge Michael Malihi dismissed one challenge that contended Obama has a computer-generated Hawaiian birth certificate, a fraudulent Social Security number and invalid U.S. identification papers. He also turned back another that claimed the president is ineligible to be a candidate because his father was not a U.S. citizen at the time of Obama's birth.

The findings by Malihi, a judge for the State Office of Administrative Hearings, go to Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who will make the final determination. Last month, at a hearing boycotted by Obama's lawyer, Malihi considered complaints brought by members of the so-called "birther" movement.

With regard to the challenge that Obama does not have legitimate birth and identification papers, Malihi said he found the evidence "unsatisfactory" and "insufficient to support plaintiffs' allegations."

A number of the witnesses who testified about the alleged fraud were never qualified as experts in birth records, forged documents and document manipulation and "none ... provided persuasive testimony," Malihi wrote.

Addressing the other claim that contends Obama cannot be a candidate because his father was never a U.S. citizen, Malihi said he was persuaded by a 2009 ruling by the Indiana Court of Appeals decision that struck down a similar challenge. In that ruling, the Indiana court found that children born within the U.S. are natural-born citizens, regardless of the citizenry of their parents.

Obama "became a citizen at birth and is a natural-born citizen," Malihi wrote. Accordingly, Obama is eligible as a candidate for the upcoming presidential primary in March, the judge said.

Even though Malihi ruled in Obama's favor, he expressed displeasure that the president's lawyer, Michael Jablonski of Atlanta, refused to attend the recent hearing.

"By deciding this matter on the merits, the court in no way condones the conduct or legal scholarship of defendant's attorney, Mr. Jablonski," Malihi wrote. "This decision is entirely based on the law, as well as the evidence and legal arguments presented at the hearing."

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Post by Seth » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:18 am

amused wrote:http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politic ... 30300.html
President Barack Obama’s name will remain on the Georgia primary ballot after a state law judge flatly rejected legal challenges that contend he can not be a candidate.

In a 10-page order, Judge Michael Malihi dismissed one challenge that contended Obama has a computer-generated Hawaiian birth certificate, a fraudulent Social Security number and invalid U.S. identification papers. He also turned back another that claimed the president is ineligible to be a candidate because his father was not a U.S. citizen at the time of Obama's birth.

The findings by Malihi, a judge for the State Office of Administrative Hearings, go to Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who will make the final determination. Last month, at a hearing boycotted by Obama's lawyer, Malihi considered complaints brought by members of the so-called "birther" movement.

With regard to the challenge that Obama does not have legitimate birth and identification papers, Malihi said he found the evidence "unsatisfactory" and "insufficient to support plaintiffs' allegations."

A number of the witnesses who testified about the alleged fraud were never qualified as experts in birth records, forged documents and document manipulation and "none ... provided persuasive testimony," Malihi wrote.

Addressing the other claim that contends Obama cannot be a candidate because his father was never a U.S. citizen, Malihi said he was persuaded by a 2009 ruling by the Indiana Court of Appeals decision that struck down a similar challenge. In that ruling, the Indiana court found that children born within the U.S. are natural-born citizens, regardless of the citizenry of their parents.

Obama "became a citizen at birth and is a natural-born citizen," Malihi wrote. Accordingly, Obama is eligible as a candidate for the upcoming presidential primary in March, the judge said.

Even though Malihi ruled in Obama's favor, he expressed displeasure that the president's lawyer, Michael Jablonski of Atlanta, refused to attend the recent hearing.

"By deciding this matter on the merits, the court in no way condones the conduct or legal scholarship of defendant's attorney, Mr. Jablonski," Malihi wrote. "This decision is entirely based on the law, as well as the evidence and legal arguments presented at the hearing."
Well, there you go. See how the judicial process actually works?
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Post by amused » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:30 am

Crushing the stupid?

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Post by Seth » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:42 am

amused wrote:Crushing the stupid?
No, with due process and careful deliberation, as it should be.
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Re: Obama called to Georgia court to defend primary eligibli

Post by apophenia » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:51 am




Well, damn. And it was such a strong case, too. They'd probably have won if the defense had actually made an argument. Damn those clever Dems and their wiley courtroom tactics.



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Post by Seth » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:27 pm

apophenia wrote:Well, damn. And it was such a strong case, too. They'd probably have won if the defense had actually made an argument. Damn those clever Dems and their wiley courtroom tactics.
The question is whether or not the judge committed reversible error for not granting summary judgment for the plaintiffs on account of the defendant not showing up. That'll be up to the appeals court to decide.
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