Catholic Church v Obama over mandatory health insurance

[FBM]

Here Is The Anti-Obama Administration Letter That Was Read To Almost Every Catholic Sitting In Church On Sunday

The Catholic Church is fighting mad with the Obama Administration, and nearly every Catholic sitting in a pew this weekend heard the reasons why.

The Health and Human Services Department recently announced it will require all employers (with few exceptions) to provide health insurance to their employees which includes subsidized contraception, sterilization and coverage for abortion-inducing drugs.

This meant that religious institutions, like Catholic colleges and hospitals, or other Christian institutions would be compelled to violate their conscience by cooperating with that which they believe to be wrong. Currently many of these institutions purchase health-insurance plans which do not provide free coverage of these services.


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Should employers be able to restrict government-mandated health care plans? Also, can Obama win re-election with the Cat-hole-licks preaching fire and brimstone against him? It's true, after all, that his plan for health care goes against their right to live according to thier whacked-out delusions...

[Thumpalumpacus]

I doubt he captured much of the Catholic vote this last election cycle anyway.

As far as employers restricting Federal laws, I don't think that should happen. I'm not sold on this health-care bill, because it looks to me like a large shift of money from private citizens to the insurance industry, but we clearly cannot pick and choose which provisions of any Federal law we observe and which we ignore.

[FBM]

I don't see how complying with the law = advocating/cooperating with birth control, anyway. Do they think the employees of the Church are going to suddenly misunderstand the Church's stance on something that is preached to them from the pulpit? The "sin" is using birth control, not complying with Federal laws. This looks a lot to me like a fabricated, shaky platform from which to preach politics.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Wait a minute, the Catholic Church being political? Are you sure?

[FBM]

Believe it or not!!

But I mean that they're tying Obama's health care plan to "sin" as a way to heighten their influence on their congretations' votes. Without reference to theology, the priest's political views are less commanding, I'd think.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Without a doubt ... but as the 80s showed, that's a risky strategy with the American laity. The unease caused by the unfolding scandals cannot help either.

Their power is waning, and this is another attempt to shore up an eroding base. I'm not sure the workers who would be denied coverage would be so happy, but that depends on the plans foisted upon the poor saps anyway.

I wouldn't put it past the Church to pick the worst plan to fulfill its legal obligation simply to poison the well against the policy.

[JimC]

They would be a lot more realistic if they dropped the absurdity of opposing contraception in general,; retaining an opposition to abortion is at a different level...

[FBM]

I think they claim that every sperm is sacred, and therefore contraception is the equivalent of abortion, which is the equivalent of murder.

[JimC]

The reality among the catholics I know is that they virtually all use contraception (rolling their eyes at a doddering hierarchy), but remain mostly opposed to abortion...

[Svartalf]

They would be a lot more realistic if they dropped the absurdity of opposing contraception in general,; retaining an opposition to abortion is at a different level...

Contraception and abortion are one of the biggest reasons we are losing to the brown people who make three or five kids for every one we have.

Inconvenient it may be, but it's strategically sound.

[Svartalf]

I think they claim that every sperm is sacred, and therefore contraception is the equivalent of abortion, which is the equivalent of murder.

Good thing Dawg decided to stop killing seed wasterss after he made an example of Onan, or I'd not be here.

[FBM]

I think they claim that every sperm is sacred, and therefore contraception is the equivalent of abortion, which is the equivalent of murder.

Good thing Dawg decided to stop killing seed wasterss after he made an example of Onan, or I'd not be here.

You speak for a whole lot of us there, man.

[Jesus_of_Nazareth]

Apparently he is not such a complete fi#cking waste of space after all

http://apnews.myway.com//article/201202 ... SUPO0.html

"The Obama administration's decision requiring church-affiliated employers to cover birth control was bound to cause an uproar among Roman Catholics and members of other faiths, no matter their beliefs on contraception........"

[FBM]

Merged...

[laklak]

What is the justification for requiring free contraceptives?