Anti-Darwin Awards : Nail In Brain WTF !!!

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Anti-Darwin Awards : Nail In Brain WTF !!!

Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:12 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16663332

Man shoots nail into brain without noticing

A suburban Chicago man accidentally shot a 3.25in (8.25cm) nail into his skull but is recovering after doctors successfully removed it from the centre of his brain.

Dante Autullo, 34, was in his workshop when a nail gun recoiled near his head.

But he had no idea the nail had entered his brain until the next day, when he began feeling nauseous.

Doctors told Mr Autullo that the nail came within millimetres of the area used for motor function.

His fiancee, Gail Glaenzer, told the Associated Press on Friday that he was in good spirits after the two-hour surgery to remove the nail at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, Illinois.

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"He feels good. He moved all his limbs, he's talking normal, he remembers everything," she said. "It's amazing, a miracle."

Ms Glaenzer said she had no idea the nail had entered his skull when she cleaned a cut on his forehead.

She convinced him to go to the hospital after he felt nauseous for much of Wednesday.

Mr Autullo thought that the nail gun had simply hit his forehead, but realised later that when the gun came in contact with his head, the sensor recognised a flat surface and fired.

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Not claiming this is a miracle but top marks for beating the odds? :smoke:
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Post by FBM » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:17 am

It's a miracle!!

I saw that a little earlier, with the x-ray. Something doesn't match up, though. The story says the entry wound was on his forehead, but the nail in the x-ray is positioned as if it entered the back of his head. If it spun or flipped inside his skull, I doubt we would be reading about this "miracle." He'd be really fucked up.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:25 am

FBM wrote:It's a miracle!!

I saw that a little earlier, with the x-ray. Something doesn't match up, though. The story says the entry wound was on his forehead, but the nail in the x-ray is positioned as if it entered the back of his head. If it spun or flipped inside his skull, I doubt we would be reading about this "miracle." He'd be really fucked up.
Could be the precise details of the gun at the time it went off is a reconstructed 'false memory' for some reason I can't quite figure? and he was actually scratching the back of his head with the gun or some thing? :smoke:
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Post by FBM » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:29 am

Well, his fiancee cleaned the wound and said it was on his forehead?
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:27 am

FBM wrote:Well, his fiancee cleaned the wound and said it was on his forehead?
He probably got the easy to spot wound when his head hit the bench after the nail gone had gone off? :tup:
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Post by FBM » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:37 am

You're making this up as you go along? :what:
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Post by Robert_S » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:43 am

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:54 am

FBM wrote:You're making this up as you go along? :what:
No I'm not. Opps, wrong thread. :fp:
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Post by JimC » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:00 am

Lazy bastards, all these nail gun wielders! :lay:

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JimC wrote:Lazy bastards, all these nail gun wielders! :lay;

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:23 am

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JimC wrote:Lazy bastards, all these nail gun wielders! :lay;

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You could damage the skull that way. If you want a nail in there clean use the right tool. :smoke:
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Post by Mr.Samsa » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:56 am

Crumple wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16663332

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"He feels good. He moved all his limbs, he's talking normal, he remembers everything," she said. "It's amazing, a miracle."
No it's not a miracle at all, it's fairly common. The reason is simply that even though it seems counter-intuitive, often you are actually better off firing a nail into your brain, than getting hit hard in the head by someone's fist. This is because small localised damage, like that of a nail, will usually (unless you're unlucky) miss any majorly important areas of the brain and the brain can compensate easily for any loss of function caused by the damage. Whereas with a traumatic brain injury, where the brain is literally rattled around inside the skull, there will tend to be multiple areas of damage, as well as generalised swelling, which results in more loss of function and complications.

This isn't to say that the guy isn't lucky, or that shooting people in the head with nails is no big deal, but of course it's not miraculous for someone to survive it with no lasting effects given how common it is.
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Post by Robert_S » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:12 am

Nope. A miracle is anything that's sufficiently unlikely, unexpected, unusually good or otherwise outside of your normal experience.

The ICP told me so! :teef:
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