Gawdzilla wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Tero wrote:Let's see him get the Chemistry job. Unemployment is the highest in 30 years even for those with 5+ years of experience.
It's fucking easy to get say "Get a job." Not so easy to find one. Tero, you know the situation in St. Louis, just drive by Bowles Ave. on I-44 and look north to 265 acres of asphalt and concrete where a Chrysler plant used to be.
I don't recall anyone saying anything was easy. I don't know too many people whose lives were or are easy, including finding a job. Finding a job, particularly a job one enjoys, is hard work. When I was in that situation, I looked at a job search as a full time job in and of itself.
"Not easy" means the asshole who said "Get a job. Any job!" wasn't out there trying to find one. Smug bastard.
If the question is getting any job at all, then I truly don't see how anyone in your typical metropolitan area in the US can't find "a" job. I patronize CVS and Walgreens a lot, as well as my local supermarkets, and they always seem to be looking for someone. It may wind up being something for $8-$10 an hour, but if one's options are that or nothing, I find it difficult to reconcile the choice being "nothing."
High turnover jobs are a good place to try to get something, too. Waiting tables, bartending, that kind of thing. It's a relatively low skilled job that one can get into without a large amount of training and education. Restaurants periodically have to get new staff because people move around in that industry a lot.
I, for one, HAVE been left high and dry by a company that went belly up, and left all its employees high and dry. I can only tell people what I did, and it lacks all "smugness." When I was engaged in a job search for my life - I needed to get a job soon or I would have a hard time hanging on to things like my car and house. And, I wasn't about to file for unemployment unless it was my only option - I put myself in the mindset that my new job was looking for a job. So, I got good nights' sleep, woke up at 5:30am, even though there was no job for me to go to. I showered, shaved, and got dressed, had breakfast, and then went to my new job of "Job Seeker."
I created a list of sources for possible jobs, and I checked those sources daily. I would add sources to that list as I found them. I would exhaust those sources daily, with the goal of being among the first resume's received by the potential employer. I would make a list of all jobs applied to, including contact person. If a contact person wasn't listed, I would do some sleuthing and find out who that person was, if possible. I would always mark a followup date on a calendar to make sure that if I hadn't heard anything in a certain number of days, that I took the proactive measure of following up either with additional written correspondence/emails or phone calls. You do that every day for 8 hours a day minimum. Keep track of all applications and responses. Send "thank you for your consideration" letters/emails to everyone who turns you down, ask them to keep you on file for the next opportunity.
You look in the market for "headhunters" that will take your resume to employers and take a commission of you're hired. Might as well do that -- again, keep track of all potential employers and follow up periodically with all headhunters working.
You contact all your friends, and tell them what you're looking for: (a) ideal, (b) acceptable, and (c) last resort, o.k. I'll take it type job.
You create a network list from anyone you contact regarding jobs you've applied for. Always ask for the name of human resource managers and other managers to keep in contact with. Talk to them. Tell them you what you want, and why you qualify. Ask if you can follow up in a few weeks to see if anything has changed with their needs. You want to do stuff like that, because sometimes a person they choose to hire doesn't work out. If you're there to strike while the iron is hot, then you can make it easy for them to hire you rather than go through the interview process again.
You go to the local Chambers of Commerce and other business and networking organizations with a stack of resumes, cards, and any other materials you can think to put together and which are relevant, and you tell people what you're looking for, and continue to make contacts. You go to local job fairs, community business expos, and other such things- anywhere where any possible employer might be. It all depends on one's experience and education - but, in hard times, sometimes added flexibility is needed, and we can't stay in our chosen career.
There are so many resources out there, and so many places to contact for possible opportunities, that if a person is not working their ass off massaging cover letters, tweeking the resume to tailor it for particular jobs, sending out emails, updating lists and followup calendars, and posting envelopes, etc., for a good 6-8 hours a day, then one really isn't doing all they can do.
But, that's just my view on it. It's far from smug. It's the experience of someone who has been there, and knows what it's like to be on the balls of his ass, and that knows what it is like to, in fact, "get a job, any job." What's the alternative to getting a job, any job, anyway? Staying home?