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That Obama eligibility issue could come back again

Post by Tyrannical » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:17 am

That Obama eligibility issue could come back again :{D

This time specifically on the "natural born citizen" clause, claiming since his father was not a US citizen he does not qualify. Natural born citizen is a specific subclass of citizen, requiring born on US soil to two US citizen parents they claim. Apparently they have an old Supreme Court decision and historical documents backing up their story, or so they say.

Now these issues have gone around court a few times, but the merit of the claims were never ruled on. Lack of standing and too late were the common answers. The last Court ruling was "after inauguration it is too late". But with a reelection coming up it can all come back up again. People in all fifty States could conceivable sue their State AG over this issue for both primary and general election in addition to a Federal case.

A particularly heavy Republican State could try and make life miserable for Obama. They could rule that Obama does not qualify as States are responsible for vetting candidates and remove him from the ballot forcing an obvious Federal law suit.
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Post by Animavore » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:21 am

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Post by Ian » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:48 am

Animavore beat me to it...

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:27 am

If the Replusivicans had dirty on him they would have trotted it out in October 2008. I know they looked. And they didn't find anything.
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:52 am

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Post by Tyrannical » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:06 am

They do make a defensible point as a matter of law on the meaning of "natural born citizen", but would the Court ever take action like that on someone that still has to win a majority vote?
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Post by TonyBelch » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:15 am

Suppose this stuck and was upheld and it turned out Obahma was really not eligable I can see how this would affect the next election. But could there be an issue made for what he has already done in the way of creating lawsa etc. In theory they sould be repealed should they not?

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Post by Tyrannical » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:30 am

TonyBelch wrote:Suppose this stuck and was upheld and it turned out Obahma was really not eligable I can see how this would affect the next election. But could there be an issue made for what he has already done in the way of creating lawsa etc. In theory they sould be repealed should they not?
There probably could, but the chaos that would involve makes it almost untouchable. Possibly something like a Supreme Court appointment could be challenged, which might succeed easier than thought since the potentially removed members would have to recuse themselves.
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Post by Svartalf » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:33 am

Load of crock, I have two cousins who are 'natural born Americans', and to the best of my knowledge, neither of their parents even was a citizen at the time they were born.
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Post by Svartalf » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:35 am

Gawdzilla wrote:If the Replusivicans had dirty on him they would have trotted it out in October 2008. I know they looked. And they didn't find anything.
More crock, if there was any dirty on him, Hillbilly huxley would have been the democratic nominee.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:57 pm

John McCain wasn't born in the US if you'll remember.
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Post by Santa_Claus » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:23 pm

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Post by Svartalf » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:59 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:John McCain wasn't born in the US if you'll remember.
Wasn't it on a US military base?
and it doesn't matter, it's not like he was elected.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:01 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:John McCain wasn't born in the US if you'll remember.
Wasn't it on a US military base?
and it doesn't matter, it's not like he was elected.
It's my favorite joke from 2008. :hehe:
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