Pope thinks child buggery isn't so bad

[Seth]

Is Seeth still trying to claim the abuse in the Church is no more important than that in any other organization? The self-anointed holders of the public morals should be held to a higher standard than that. However, if I cared enough to take him off ignore I would ask him which "other organizations" have an institutional program of silencing complaintants, spiriting the accused out of the area, and threatening the kids with Hell if they spoke up, often with the required assistance of the parents, some of whom went through the same ordeal and STILL put their own kids in harm's way.

Actually, I suspect there's at least as much abuse in non cath clergy and institutions, but the fragmentedness of the other churches makes it look smaller.

And the report in question says that such is twice the national average for the Netherlands. So the problem is more severe in the churches. And the Catlickers have institutionalized it, it's now part of their "culture".

Which of course is a bald-faced lie and libel.

[John_fi_Skye]

As a number of posters have hinted, this has really all been about the media, rather than an organised religion. The latter used to be mechanisms used by the powerful to subjugate the rest. In this, they've now largely been replaced by the media. Both deserve our unbridled scepticism.

What has been about the media?

Wilfully malicious interpretation of the facts, in order to influence or shape public opinion. It's what they do.

Excellent point! It might be reasonably said that the media is the new universal religion.

Thanks. Media icons certainly receive enough adulation - glory, laud and honour, as it says in a different context. Just as I hate religion, I also hate celebs.

[Seth]

As a number of posters have hinted, this has really all been about the media, rather than an organised religion. The latter used to be mechanisms used by the powerful to subjugate the rest. In this, they've now largely been replaced by the media. Both deserve our unbridled scepticism.

What has been about the media?

Wilfully malicious interpretation of the facts, in order to influence or shape public opinion. It's what they do.

Excellent point! It might be reasonably said that the media is the new universal religion.

Thanks. Media icons certainly receive enough adulation - glory, laud and honour, as it says in a different context. Just as I hate religion, I also hate celebs.

Yeah, but at least they look good naked...at least most of the female ones do. That's something anyway.

[John_fi_Skye]

Yeah, but at least they look good naked...at least most of the female ones do. That's something anyway.

I have to concede some of them are easy on the eye, but that doesn't mean I think they deserve obscene amounts of money, or that they merit adulation from me.

[Seth]

Yeah, but at least they look good naked...at least most of the female ones do. That's something anyway.

I have to concede some of them are easy on the eye, but that doesn't mean I think they deserve obscene amounts of money, or that they merit adulation from me.

Well, they "deserve" whatever the market is willing to pay them I think. There's a sucker born every minute, and a fool and his money are soon parted. My view is that if that's how people want to spend their money, that's fine with me.

[John_fi_Skye]

Yeah, but at least they look good naked...at least most of the female ones do. That's something anyway.

I have to concede some of them are easy on the eye, but that doesn't mean I think they deserve obscene amounts of money, or that they merit adulation from me.

Well, they "deserve" whatever the market is willing to pay them I think. There's a sucker born every minute, and a fool and his money are soon parted. My view is that if that's how people want to spend their money, that's fine with me.

That's one way of looking at it. You could say the same about those who put their money into collection plates in church. Or who subsidise Al Qaeda.

[Seth]

Yeah, but at least they look good naked...at least most of the female ones do. That's something anyway.

I have to concede some of them are easy on the eye, but that doesn't mean I think they deserve obscene amounts of money, or that they merit adulation from me.

Well, they "deserve" whatever the market is willing to pay them I think. There's a sucker born every minute, and a fool and his money are soon parted. My view is that if that's how people want to spend their money, that's fine with me.

That's one way of looking at it. You could say the same about those who put their money into collection plates in church. Or who subsidise Al Qaeda.

Well, I think there's a rational distinction to be made between financially supporting celebrities or religion and subsidizing global terrorism.

[John_fi_Skye]

Yeah, but at least they look good naked...at least most of the female ones do. That's something anyway.

I have to concede some of them are easy on the eye, but that doesn't mean I think they deserve obscene amounts of money, or that they merit adulation from me.

Well, they "deserve" whatever the market is willing to pay them I think. There's a sucker born every minute, and a fool and his money are soon parted. My view is that if that's how people want to spend their money, that's fine with me.

That's one way of looking at it. You could say the same about those who put their money into collection plates in church. Or who subsidise Al Qaeda.

Well, I think there's a rational distinction to be made between financially supporting celebrities or religion and subsidizing global terrorism.

If the world order has to stay the way it is, I'm sorry to say I probably don't disagree with what you're saying. But don't expect me to like it.

[Seth]

That's one way of looking at it. You could say the same about those who put their money into collection plates in church. Or who subsidise Al Qaeda.

Well, I think there's a rational distinction to be made between financially supporting celebrities or religion and subsidizing global terrorism.

If the world order has to stay the way it is, I'm sorry to say I probably don't disagree with what you're saying. But don't expect me to like it.

Well, the good news is that YOU are not required to subsidize any of them if you don't want to.

Me, I'll continue to subsidize Emma Watson, Charlize Theron, Emma Stone, Amy Smart and an number of other beautiful female celebrities, along with the Church of Tolerism™, because it is in my best interests to do so.

[John_fi_Skye]

That's one way of looking at it. You could say the same about those who put their money into collection plates in church. Or who subsidise Al Qaeda.

Well, I think there's a rational distinction to be made between financially supporting celebrities or religion and subsidizing global terrorism.

If the world order has to stay the way it is, I'm sorry to say I probably don't disagree with what you're saying. But don't expect me to like it.

Well, the good news is that YOU are not required to subsidize any of them if you don't want to.

Me, I'll continue to subsidize Emma Watson, Charlize Theron, Emma Stone, Amy Smart and an number of other beautiful female celebrities, along with the Church of Tolerism™, because it is in my best interests to do so.

I don't follow at all, and I've gone to the slight trouble of googling "Church of Tolerism™", and ended up none the wiser. Never mind , I can't be bothered. Thank you for giving me the right not to subsidise massively wealthy people. That's very tolerant of you.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Seeth's "church" is a fiction of his own making, like his ethics.

[John_fi_Skye]

Seeth's "church" is a fiction of his own making, like his ethics.

Oh.

[Seth]

That's one way of looking at it. You could say the same about those who put their money into collection plates in church. Or who subsidise Al Qaeda.

Well, I think there's a rational distinction to be made between financially supporting celebrities or religion and subsidizing global terrorism.

If the world order has to stay the way it is, I'm sorry to say I probably don't disagree with what you're saying. But don't expect me to like it.

Well, the good news is that YOU are not required to subsidize any of them if you don't want to.

Me, I'll continue to subsidize Emma Watson, Charlize Theron, Emma Stone, Amy Smart and an number of other beautiful female celebrities, along with the Church of Tolerism™, because it is in my best interests to do so.

I don't follow at all, and I've gone to the slight trouble of googling "Church of Tolerism™", and ended up none the wiser. Never mind , I can't be bothered. Thank you for giving me the right not to subsidise massively wealthy people. That's very tolerant of you.

You're quite welcome. The Blessings of Tolerance be upon You! And we are a very exclusive religion. You have to apply and have a background check to make sure you won't be buggering any children.

[Seth]

Seeth's "church" is a fiction of his own making, like his ethics.

Of course it is. So what? It's not a fiction, it's a real religion. As for ethics, at least I have some, which is more than I can say for you.

[John_fi_Skye]

That's one way of looking at it. You could say the same about those who put their money into collection plates in church. Or who subsidise Al Qaeda.

Well, I think there's a rational distinction to be made between financially supporting celebrities or religion and subsidizing global terrorism.

If the world order has to stay the way it is, I'm sorry to say I probably don't disagree with what you're saying. But don't expect me to like it.

Well, the good news is that YOU are not required to subsidize any of them if you don't want to.

Me, I'll continue to subsidize Emma Watson, Charlize Theron, Emma Stone, Amy Smart and an number of other beautiful female celebrities, along with the Church of Tolerism™, because it is in my best interests to do so.

I don't follow at all, and I've gone to the slight trouble of googling "Church of Tolerism™", and ended up none the wiser. Never mind , I can't be bothered. Thank you for giving me the right not to subsidise massively wealthy people. That's very tolerant of you.

You're quite welcome. The Blessings of Tolerance be upon You! And we are a very exclusive religion. You have to apply and have a background check to make sure you won't be buggering any children.

Awww, come on, Seth! I thought you were supposed to be tolerant!