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Post by Gawd » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:07 am

Seth wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Shame we can't add socialist and communist sympathizers to the list since Senator McCarthy was right, but I degrees.
But it is a violation of the 5th and 6th amendment.
"Digress?"

Anyway, me too, and I agree that any "indefinite detention" of a US citizen on US soil absent suspension of the right of Habeas Corpus during time of war is a constitutional non-starter.
The US has been in continuous war for the past 60 years. You are fooling yourself if you think the US is not waging war right now. You have no rights.

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Post by Seth » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:40 pm

Gawd wrote:
Seth wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Shame we can't add socialist and communist sympathizers to the list since Senator McCarthy was right, but I degrees.
But it is a violation of the 5th and 6th amendment.
"Digress?"

Anyway, me too, and I agree that any "indefinite detention" of a US citizen on US soil absent suspension of the right of Habeas Corpus during time of war is a constitutional non-starter.
The US has been in continuous war for the past 60 years. You are fooling yourself if you think the US is not waging war right now. You have no rights.
I have all rights. If you don't think so, then come and try to take them from me and we will see who has rights and who is dead.
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Re: Senate supports Obama plans for indefinite detention 93-

Post by Tyrannical » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:39 am

Hmmm, what was the law that allowed us to hold Japanese and German US citizens in internment camps during WWII?
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.

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Re: Senate supports Obama plans for indefinite detention 93-

Post by Gawd » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:34 pm

Seth wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Seth wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Shame we can't add socialist and communist sympathizers to the list since Senator McCarthy was right, but I degrees.
But it is a violation of the 5th and 6th amendment.
"Digress?"

Anyway, me too, and I agree that any "indefinite detention" of a US citizen on US soil absent suspension of the right of Habeas Corpus during time of war is a constitutional non-starter.
The US has been in continuous war for the past 60 years. You are fooling yourself if you think the US is not waging war right now. You have no rights.
I have all rights. If you don't think so, then come and try to take them from me and we will see who has rights and who is dead.
Why don't you just invade me, Mr. American?

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Re: Senate supports Obama plans for indefinite detention 93-

Post by Seth » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:38 pm

Gawd wrote:
Seth wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Seth wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Shame we can't add socialist and communist sympathizers to the list since Senator McCarthy was right, but I degrees.
But it is a violation of the 5th and 6th amendment.
"Digress?"

Anyway, me too, and I agree that any "indefinite detention" of a US citizen on US soil absent suspension of the right of Habeas Corpus during time of war is a constitutional non-starter.
The US has been in continuous war for the past 60 years. You are fooling yourself if you think the US is not waging war right now. You have no rights.
I have all rights. If you don't think so, then come and try to take them from me and we will see who has rights and who is dead.
Why don't you just invade me, Mr. American?
Do you need to be invaded? Are you part of a despotic and tyrannical government that is suppressing the liberties and enslaving the people of your nation and denying them their fundamental human rights? If so "I" might get around to doing so eventually. Or not.

Anyway, that was non-sequitur. You claimed I don't have rights. I challenged you to come and try to take my rights from me. You're too much of a coward to do so I suspect.
"Seth is Grandmaster Zen Troll who trains his victims to troll themselves every time they think of him" Robert_S

"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth

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Re: Senate supports Obama plans for indefinite detention 93-

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:47 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Hmmm, what was the law that allowed us to hold Japanese and German US citizens in internment camps during WWII?
Franklin D. Roosevelt, executive orders 9066 and 9102. Italians too. FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover, opposed FDR's measure.

But, the British, of course, had proper internment measures, in relation to which the American version was but a cheap imitation.... Defense Regulation 18B.

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Re: Senate supports Obama plans for indefinite detention 93-

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:49 pm

Gawd wrote:
Seth wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Seth wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Shame we can't add socialist and communist sympathizers to the list since Senator McCarthy was right, but I degrees.
But it is a violation of the 5th and 6th amendment.
"Digress?"

Anyway, me too, and I agree that any "indefinite detention" of a US citizen on US soil absent suspension of the right of Habeas Corpus during time of war is a constitutional non-starter.
The US has been in continuous war for the past 60 years. You are fooling yourself if you think the US is not waging war right now. You have no rights.
I have all rights. If you don't think so, then come and try to take them from me and we will see who has rights and who is dead.
Why don't you just invade me, Mr. American?
The land you live on was forcibly conquered by the British and the French, who drove out the indigenous populations and subjugated the new land. Ultimately, the Anglo-Saxon and Francophone conquerors broke away from the old world, forming the Dominion of Canada, and ultimately independent Canada. You are an invader, Gawd. GTFO of Canada, or STFU.

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Re: Senate supports Obama plans for indefinite detention 93-

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:07 pm

Seth wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Seth wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Seth wrote:
"Digress?"

Anyway, me too, and I agree that any "indefinite detention" of a US citizen on US soil absent suspension of the right of Habeas Corpus during time of war is a constitutional non-starter.
The US has been in continuous war for the past 60 years. You are fooling yourself if you think the US is not waging war right now. You have no rights.
I have all rights. If you don't think so, then come and try to take them from me and we will see who has rights and who is dead.
Why don't you just invade me, Mr. American?
Do you need to be invaded? Are you part of a despotic and tyrannical government that is suppressing the liberties and enslaving the people of your nation and denying them their fundamental human rights? .
I think according to Gawd that he is, in fact, part of a despotic and tyrannical government that is suppressing the liberties and enslaving people...he is, after all, a denizen of that hoary despotism known as "Canada."

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