How would an Obama vs. Ron Paul election go?

[Tyrannical]

How would an Obama vs. Ron Paul election go? Stranger things have happened before

Paul is odd as Republicans go, and this could be a strange one since Obama for the most part has continued Bush's foreign policy and bailed out the banks.

Left wing anti-War protestors, they can't side with Obama.
Left wing anti-corporatist, they can't side with Obama.
Left wing medical pot smokers, they can't side with Obama.

Paul is pro-life, but not against things like the morning after pill. And as an OBGYN that has delivered thousands of babies, he kind of gets a pass on this issue

Not much for inconsistencies, flip-flopping, or skeletons in his past. But some really strange anecdotes for someone not titled Saint
When he was in Congress and it was in session only Monday through Thursday, he'd fly home to Texas Friday morning to deliver babies and fly back to D.C Monday morning. Seven days a week for ten years. Oh, and he did not accept medicare or medicaid. He treated people who could not pay for free. Even the Communists must be gleaming over that

[Ian]

Don't kid yourself too much. You may like Paul, but in a general election Obama would win all fifty states. Maybe Canada and Mexico too.

[Pensioner]

Don't kid yourself too much. You may like Paul, but in a general election Obama would win all fifty states. Maybe Canada and Mexico too.

And most of the UK as well Ian.

[Tyrannical]

Don't kid yourself too much. You may like Paul, but in a general election Obama would win all fifty states. Maybe Canada and Mexico too.

Who'd vote for Obama?

[Coito ergo sum]

Yo mama?

[Ian]

Don't kid yourself too much. You may like Paul, but in a general election Obama would win all fifty states. Maybe Canada and Mexico too.

Who'd vote for Obama?

If you honestly can't answer that question, then you're in for one helluva shock next November.

I only wish the Republican nominee really would be Paul. That won't happen though.

[Coito ergo sum]

There isn't a way to tell right now how many will vote for Obama, but if the election were held today, he would lose in a landslide, based on what I see.

[Ian]

There isn't a way to tell right now how many will vote for Obama, but if the election were held today, he would lose in a landslide, based on what I see.

Against who?

I'd prefer to wait until the GOP nomination process is settled, but I might not be against placing another friendly wager over the next election...

[Tyrannical]

Don't kid yourself too much. You may like Paul, but in a general election Obama would win all fifty states. Maybe Canada and Mexico too.

Who'd vote for Obama?

If you honestly can't answer that question, then you're in for one helluva shock next November.

I only wish the Republican nominee really would be Paul. That won't happen though.

Maybe you'd be the one in shock

Imagine Code Pink and OWS protesting Obama in the next election. They won't be protesting Ron Paul.

[Coito ergo sum]

There isn't a way to tell right now how many will vote for Obama, but if the election were held today, he would lose in a landslide, based on what I see.

Against who?

I'd prefer to wait until the GOP nomination process is settled, but I might not be against placing another friendly wager over the next election...

Against almost any Republican candidate. Beyond the polls, I am sensing a huge amount of dissatisfaction, a lot of buyer's remorse for those that voted for him, and certainly anyone who did not vote for him in 2008 hasn't been convinced by his performance to switch sides. The view of the so-called "independent" voter is not nearly so pro-Obama as it was in 2008, and that's what brought him the victory.

I'm leaning towards your view on Ron Paul. He couldn't carry a national election, I think. I mean, the guy has run for President before as a third party candidate. I was aware of Ron Paul in the late 1980's or early 1990's. Didn't he run in the 1992 election?

[Coito ergo sum]

Don't kid yourself too much. You may like Paul, but in a general election Obama would win all fifty states. Maybe Canada and Mexico too.

Who'd vote for Obama?

If you honestly can't answer that question, then you're in for one helluva shock next November.

I only wish the Republican nominee really would be Paul. That won't happen though.

Maybe you'd be the one in shock

Imagine Code Pink and OWS protesting Obama in the next election. They won't be protesting Ron Paul.

The Democrats are already setting up their prohibition of OWS protesters at their convention...

"We're with you OWS!"

[Ian]

Don't kid yourself too much. You may like Paul, but in a general election Obama would win all fifty states. Maybe Canada and Mexico too.

Who'd vote for Obama?

If you honestly can't answer that question, then you're in for one helluva shock next November.

I only wish the Republican nominee really would be Paul. That won't happen though.

Maybe you'd be the one in shock

Imagine Code Pink and OWS protesting Obama in the next election. They won't be protesting Ron Paul.

You really think Obama's lost so much liberal support that those groups will not only not give him their support, but they'll protest him in 2012? Guess again.

Paul, meanwhile, might very well run as a 3rd Party candidate. He's not running for Congress again. He's old, and this is his last hurrah. He might pull a Nader and keep running through November just to make a point.

[Ian]

There isn't a way to tell right now how many will vote for Obama, but if the election were held today, he would lose in a landslide, based on what I see.

Against who?

I'd prefer to wait until the GOP nomination process is settled, but I might not be against placing another friendly wager over the next election...

Against almost any Republican candidate. Beyond the polls, I am sensing a huge amount of dissatisfaction, a lot of buyer's remorse for those that voted for him, and certainly anyone who did not vote for him in 2008 hasn't been convinced by his performance to switch sides. The view of the so-called "independent" voter is not nearly so pro-Obama as it was in 2008, and that's what brought him the victory.

I'm leaning towards your view on Ron Paul. He couldn't carry a national election, I think. I mean, the guy has run for President before as a third party candidate. I was aware of Ron Paul in the late 1980's or early 1990's. Didn't he run in the 1992 election?

All due respect to what you've been sensing, but even if the election were held today (a moot point, since the Obama machine isn't even in campaign mode yet!) the polls aren't saying he'd surely lose against anybody, certainly not Romney or Gingrich. And I'm having a hard time imagining that the nominee won't be one of those two.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/

Fox News has Obama over Romney 44-42 nationally
Fox News has Obama over Gingrich 46-40 nationally
Rasmussen has Romney over Obama 45-42
And consider the polling sources!
(BTW: In Florida, NBC News/Marist has Obama over Romney 48-41, with Obama over Gingrich 51-39)

Not exactly a "landslide". Not to mention how much press the GOP has been getting, since they're the ones having all the debates and campaigning so far. If it looks like a horse race now, then Obama's numbers will be looking even better months down the road once the campaign really gets going.

[Tyrannical]

Ian may be in for quite the shock....

Code Pink anti-war protestors have already made peace with the Ron Paul candidacy, and have already done some protests against Obama.

OWS? They did the mic check protest once at a Paul speech. Not fans of the bank bailouts a certain Obama was for.

Wait until Ralph Nader endorses Paul over Obama. The intellectual left will either not vote or vote Paul.

[Ian]

Wait until Ralph Nader endorses Paul over Obama. The intellectual left will either not vote or vote Paul.

I think you're smoking something funny.

Moot point anyway - Ron Paul will pull in tons of cash and have a powerful campaign with his core of devoted supporters, and in the end he'll (yet again) come away with results in the single digits. Those single digits are only a factor is he decides to keep going until November; in which case he'll certainly pull more votes from the GOP nominee than from Obama.