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Et tu, Jim?JimC wrote:
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Re: David Cameron says "No! No! No!" to new Euro treaty ...
Ian Hislop got it right on HIGNFY the other night - nothing wrong with being on the sidelines when the centre collapses.

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Nobody really knows if this is a good or a bad thing it seems to me. In the absence of a 'right' answer about what Cameron should have done, people seem to me to have fallen back on their prejudices. The anti-EU lot saw this as a golden opportunity, which Cameron handed them on a plate (and ensured their support in the future - always a struggle for Tory leaders). But whether we will be better or worse off economically in the end - its a gamble and a shot in the dark as far as I can see.
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You're probably right. Much of economics is a gamble. But being tied in to doing whatever Europe wants to do, gives us less flexibility for the future, including the flexibility to really change the way things work - which we may need if the global economies go tits up. My stance on Europe (and theoretically, all countries) is maximum integration with minimum loss of autonomy.Rum wrote:Nobody really knows if this is a good or a bad thing it seems to me. In the absence of a 'right' answer about what Cameron should have done, people seem to me to have fallen back on their prejudices. The anti-EU lot saw this as a golden opportunity, which Cameron handed them on a plate (and ensured their support in the future - always a struggle for Tory leaders). But whether we will be better or worse off economically in the end - its a gamble and a shot in the dark as far as I can see.
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Or we'll have to cozy up to them, to avoid their blocking everything they can.klr wrote:I don't agree with the last bit about this proving popular with the UK electorate, given the old maxim that "a week is a long time in politics". By the time the next general election comes around, the negative ramifications of this policy direction might have become very apparent. The UK is going to become more isolated as a result of this.
Also, I don't think the UK has any moral high ground from which it can preach to the Eurozone on financial matters. Anyone remember RBS and Northern Rock?
Reminds me of the joke about when the parts of the body vied to be chief... You don't have to be a brain to be the boss, just an arsehole.
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You forget one thing my dear lord hux... this time, your precious navy won't help us, you trojans let us piece a tunnel under your protective channel, and it will protect you no more than a faulty condom now.Clinton Huxley wrote:We have seen off the Boche more than once, we will do it again. First step, dust off Plan W....
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Wait until Wales and Ireland are nuked?Clinton Huxley wrote:I'm sure the Dominions have already been given their instructions.JimC wrote:Then send for troops from Oz and NZ...Clinton Huxley wrote:We have seen off the Boche more than once, we will do it again. First step, dust off Plan W....
Remember. all Australian soldiers will automatically tell British officers to get stuffed...
Deal with it, because, given enough beer, they are awesome warriors...
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You mean like they did at Gallipoli?JimC wrote:Then send for troops from Oz and NZ...Clinton Huxley wrote:We have seen off the Boche more than once, we will do it again. First step, dust off Plan W....
Remember. all Australian soldiers will automatically tell British officers to get stuffed...
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...again.Clinton Huxley wrote:Fuck off, Starnberg. You can catch a Frenchman with his pants down but an Englishman's britches are made of sterner stuff. I look forward to stabling my charger in the Reichstag, you bullet-headed goon.
I think the UK is absolutely correct to be wary of any union including Germany or France. If we had known what we were getting into, we never would have allowed California or Illinois into the Union.
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Five hundred pounds of Semtex can fix that problem in about 20 ms.Svartalf wrote:You forget one thing my dear lord hux... this time, your precious navy won't help us, you trojans let us piece a tunnel under your protective channel, and it will protect you no more than a faulty condom now.Clinton Huxley wrote:We have seen off the Boche more than once, we will do it again. First step, dust off Plan W....
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"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
"Those who support denying anyone the right to keep and bear arms for personal defense are fully complicit in every crime that might have been prevented had the victim been effectively armed." Seth
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"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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I blame California. No Reagan, no H. W. Bush. No H. W. Bush, no W. Bush. No W. Bush, no Obama.Seth wrote:...again.Clinton Huxley wrote:Fuck off, Starnberg. You can catch a Frenchman with his pants down but an Englishman's britches are made of sterner stuff. I look forward to stabling my charger in the Reichstag, you bullet-headed goon.
I think the UK is absolutely correct to be wary of any union including Germany or France. If we had known what we were getting into, we never would have allowed California or Illinois into the Union.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Oh, we always ended up doing what our lords and masters told us to do, we just gave them a lot of lip in the process...Seth wrote:You mean like they did at Gallipoli?JimC wrote:Then send for troops from Oz and NZ...Clinton Huxley wrote:We have seen off the Boche more than once, we will do it again. First step, dust off Plan W....
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This does appear to be true. I find myself astonished that the Queen is still your head of state for example! It is still officially 'Her Majesty's Australian Government'.
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Well, the Aussies did vote not to change it as recently as 1999. Or to be more exact, they voted not to lose perks like not requiring a UK passport to get into the UK (and by extension the EU). Call me cynical.Rum wrote:This does appear to be true. I find myself astonished that the Queen is still your head of state for example! It is still officially 'Her Majesty's Australian Government'.

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