Should we kill wolves in national parks?

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Re: Should we kill wolves in national parks?

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Re: Should we kill wolves in national parks?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:36 pm

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Re: Should we kill wolves in national parks?

Post by JimC » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:35 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
JimC wrote:...Whereas in Oz shooting foxes is a useful thing, they are introduced pests who eat too many native animals... I've done my share in the past...

But predators in their natural environment ought to be left alone in most cases, unless there is a sound, rational reason for culling, based on the advice of professional ecologists, not politicians or other idiots...
Ah yes! Australia. Where the immigrant toffs went and introduced those 'pest' foxes so that they could practice.. ...er.. ...'pest control' on them :think:
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Re: Should we kill wolves in national parks?

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:31 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:...The irony is that far more people are (and probably always were from the begging beginning of farming) injured/killed by livestock than by wolves and other top predators.

In nature it's so often the large herbivores you've got to look out for - even when you think you've got them under your control.
Told you so,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-15919216
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Re: Should we kill wolves in national parks?

Post by Pappa » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:38 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
JimC wrote:...Whereas in Oz shooting foxes is a useful thing, they are introduced pests who eat too many native animals... I've done my share in the past...

But predators in their natural environment ought to be left alone in most cases, unless there is a sound, rational reason for culling, based on the advice of professional ecologists, not politicians or other idiots...
Ah yes! Australia. Where the immigrant toffs went and introduced those 'pest' foxes so that they could practice.. ...er.. ...'pest control' on them :think:
Only in recent years have British toffs begun to claim fox hunting is about pest control. In the past they were more than happy to be honest and regard it as sport.

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Re: Should we kill wolves in national parks?

Post by Jason » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:45 pm

I didn't shoot three wolves in Northern BC.. they ran away when they spotted me. My uncle gave me shit for not shooting them. :P

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Re: Should we kill wolves in national parks?

Post by Schneibster » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:28 am

If we're killing wolves without a reason in national parks I have no idea what national parks are for. An animal that becomes a threat to human life I can understand; even one that persistently targets livestock. But that last is used as an excuse. There are many more allegations, helped by scavenger behavior that the livestock owners do not acknowledge or even bother to ever learn about, than there are documented cases of livestock destruction by wolves. I am a wildlife photographer, and though I no longer have the moxie, my sisters and brothers want to photograph wolves. A simple man, I support this ambition in all ways I can.
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Re: Should we kill wolves in national parks?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:50 am

Again, if this matters to you, go over to http://defenders.org. They are doing really good work out there. They're what PETA should have been.
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