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Re: Psychopaths

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No! THIS. IS. SPARTAAAA !

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Cunt » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:12 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote: Who said those things?
I can't help it if you don't read the newspapers.
Well, if it said it in the newspapers, it MUST be true (to Schneibster, anyway lol)
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:25 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Once again - they made statements, none of which are identified or shown to be lies. What you're doing, as usual, is just taking a political opinion or opinion on economics that you disagree with and which you think is wrong, and saying that because you think it's wrong it's a lie.
Toomey on Tuesday: “What happened that brought about the massive budget deficits and the mounting debt that caused this committee to come into being, was, fundamentally, a spending spree. Remember, it’s been this sequence of stimulus bills, and bailouts, and government takeovers—a huge surge in discretionary spending.”
What happened that brought about the massive budget deficits was off-budget Iraq and the unfunded Medicare Part D prescription drug benefit and the unfunded Bush tax cuts, and I can produce charts that prove it.
Arguably. You can produce charts that argue the opposite.
Only if you lie.
You misread me.

What I meant was that you (Schneib) can produce (and did produce) a chart that "argued" the opposite of what "Toomey" said. That doesn't mean Toomey is lying, even if you were (assuming without admiting - aka "arguendo") correct. You've just found an alleged factual source that you trust, apparently. Toomey may have access to better information than you have. Whether he is "lying" depends on whether he believes his argument is true, or whether he is deliberately being deceptive.

With all due respect (and very little is actually due), just because "Da Schneib" does a google search and comes up with a chart or two, that doesn't render any contrary statement a "lie."

Any of this sinking in, boy?

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:28 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:Here's another reason, and I got plenty more: we got rid of the regulations and the banksters stole everything and fucked the economy. Is that good for business? I'm going with "no." Need more?

"The best you've done" is a lie.
Come the fuck on, dude. Really? You don't get it?
Of course I "get it." I can see more lies being cranked out every day.

"Russia is in my front yard."
"I never diddled any little kids in the Congressional Page Program."
"HPV vaccines cause brain damage."
"Obama is a Muslim."
"Unions are evil."
"Gays are evil."
"Guns are good."

What's to get?
Who said those things?
I can't help it if you don't read the newspapers.
You'll need to take a remedial English course before you continue spewing your nonsense, to wit: How to Use Quotation Marks http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/577/01/

I can't help it if you think and write like a third grader.

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:35 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:OK:

"regulations are good for business" Killing customers is bad for business, can we agree on that? And regulations prevent businesses from making dangerous products. With me so far?
The best you've done is come up with a fairly weak and juvenile argument for why some regulations might be good.
Here's another reason, and I got plenty more: we got rid of the regulations and the banksters stole everything and fucked the economy. Is that good for business? I'm going with "no." Need more?

"The best you've done" is a lie.
We got rid of some regulations, but added others. Is that good for business? Maybe, maybe not. That's a matter of opinion.
No, it's a matter of fact.
...only on Bizarro World.
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There was a financial crisis, and that has led to a recession, the worst since the Great Depression, and there is still high unemployment threatening another dip in the economy creating a double-dip recession, and there is now a financial crisis in Europe that is likely a result of the original financial crisis as well.
Yes, that's a fact. However, we were talking about your allegation that the statement "regulations are bad for business" was a "lie." It isn't. It's not my problem that you can't focus.
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The original financial crisis was caused by deregulation of investment banking, and resulting irresponsible behavior by investment bankers.
That's one theory, although anyone of a professional nature has cited the repeal of the part of Glass-Steagall that you've referred to as only one part of what caused the financial crisis. Many other factors are generally cited as well. You're the only person, as far as I know, on the planet that ascribes only one, single causative factor the financial crisis. I don't think you're lying, though. I think you're just not very bright, and certainly not well informed.
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Every bit of that is fact; and you're denying it.
I'm denying that the statement you said was a lie was in fact that. It wasn't. You're wrong. You can't keep focused because your brain is too weak to do so. You would rather go off on tangents.
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You are transparent as glass with your "that's a matter of opinion" chickenshit.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:35 pm

Cunt wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote: Who said those things?
I can't help it if you don't read the newspapers.
Well, if it said it in the newspapers, it MUST be true (to Schneibster, anyway lol)
You are claiming the newspapers print no truth.

OK.

I note you didn't reply about Scientology.

Thought so.
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Post by Schneibster » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:37 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Once again - they made statements, none of which are identified or shown to be lies. What you're doing, as usual, is just taking a political opinion or opinion on economics that you disagree with and which you think is wrong, and saying that because you think it's wrong it's a lie.
Toomey on Tuesday: “What happened that brought about the massive budget deficits and the mounting debt that caused this committee to come into being, was, fundamentally, a spending spree. Remember, it’s been this sequence of stimulus bills, and bailouts, and government takeovers—a huge surge in discretionary spending.”
What happened that brought about the massive budget deficits was off-budget Iraq and the unfunded Medicare Part D prescription drug benefit and the unfunded Bush tax cuts, and I can produce charts that prove it.
Arguably. You can produce charts that argue the opposite.
Only if you lie.
You misread me.
No I didn't. It's right there in black and white. Sorry the liberal bias of reality is a problem for you again.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:40 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
The best you've done is come up with a fairly weak and juvenile argument for why some regulations might be good.
Here's another reason, and I got plenty more: we got rid of the regulations and the banksters stole everything and fucked the economy. Is that good for business? I'm going with "no." Need more?

"The best you've done" is a lie.
We got rid of some regulations, but added others. Is that good for business? Maybe, maybe not. That's a matter of opinion.
No, it's a matter of fact.
...only on Bizarro World.
Schneibster wrote:
There was a financial crisis, and that has led to a recession, the worst since the Great Depression, and there is still high unemployment threatening another dip in the economy creating a double-dip recession, and there is now a financial crisis in Europe that is likely a result of the original financial crisis as well.
Yes, that's a fact.
Coito ergo sum wrote:...only on Bizarro World.
Make up your fuckin' mind.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Cunt » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:13 am

[quote="Schneibster"
I note you didn't reply about Scientology.

Thought so.[/quote]
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:14 am

Thought so.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Cunt » Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:31 am

Thought so what?
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:28 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Cunt wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote: Who said those things?
I can't help it if you don't read the newspapers.
Well, if it said it in the newspapers, it MUST be true (to Schneibster, anyway lol)
You are claiming the newspapers print no truth.

OK.

I note you didn't reply about Scientology.

Thought so.
Did you purposefully misstate what he said, or did you just fail to comprehend plain English?

He said, "if it said it in the newspapers, it MUST be true (to Schneibster, anyway lol).

That does not state or imply that he is claiming that newspapers print no truth. It's a sarcastic way of saying that newspapers don't NECESSARILY print the truth. It's not that they don't contain "any" truth. It's that they also contain stuff that is not true.

Did you REALLY not understand that? You really thought he was saying that everything printed in newspapers is not true?

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:32 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Arguably. You can produce charts that argue the opposite.
Only if you lie.
You misread me.
No I didn't. It's right there in black and white. Sorry the liberal bias of reality is a problem for you again.
What I meant was that you (Schneib) can produce (and did produce) a chart that "argued" the opposite of what "Toomey" said. That doesn't mean Toomey is lying, even if you were (assuming without admiting - aka "arguendo") correct. You've just found an alleged factual source that you trust, apparently. Toomey may have access to better information than you have. Whether he is "lying" depends on whether he believes his argument is true, or whether he is deliberately being deceptive.

With all due respect (and very little is actually due), just because "Da Schneib" does a google search and comes up with a chart or two, that doesn't render any contrary statement a "lie."

By ignoring what I actually write in favor of your own purposeful mischaracterization or your own mistakes and misapprehensions, you prove that you have no real desire to understand what I'm talking about, but you'd rather just fuck around. It demonstrates your puerility. And, it clearly shows your casuistry and sophistry.[/quote]

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:35 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:No, it's a matter of fact.
...only on Bizarro World.
Schneibster wrote:
There was a financial crisis, and that has led to a recession, the worst since the Great Depression, and there is still high unemployment threatening another dip in the economy creating a double-dip recession, and there is now a financial crisis in Europe that is likely a result of the original financial crisis as well.
Yes, that's a fact.
Coito ergo sum wrote:...only on Bizarro World.
Make up your fuckin' mind.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Cunt » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:22 pm

Schneibster wrote:Thought so.
What are you (probably erroneously) assuming you are right about now?
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