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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Kristie » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:14 pm

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:17 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
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Coito ergo sum wrote:
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Cunt wrote:Coito ergo sum, da Schneib is very useful, if you want to know how to not argue. Beyond that, I have found little he says to be of any tangible value.

But it's fun as hell to read. I am just sorry that his careless shambling about ends up upsetting people who ARE trying to discuss things reasonably.

If he wanted to understand, he would make a serious effort to understand the position of others.
I think changing the subject and making it about me is chickenshit.
...because you'd rather it be made about other people besides yourself.
When people
You.
Schneibster wrote: maliciously troll, yes, I do think it needs to be about malicious trolling. Like what you're doing here and in the Liar thread.
I'm responding to your nonsense,
You are claiming bullshit is not lies.

I can't imagine saying anything more cruel. And it's true; the quote is in my signature, and you said it.

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:19 pm

PordFrefect wrote:
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PordFrefect wrote:There is no truth
:fix:
I get it when someone does the 'fix' thing on something you wrote as a joke, but what's with attributing something to me that I didn't write at all? :ask:
If it's ping-ponging then both sides are equal. There is, then, no truth, since they are equal; if one is true, the other is false and they are unequal.

The claim of ping-ponging is therefore logically equivalent to the claim that there is no truth. I say that is false, and I am pointing it out sarcastically, which is what the "fix" fairy is for.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:34 pm

Gallstones wrote:Anyone missing Exi5 yet?
Chuck who? :dunno:
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:40 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:I think changing the subject and making it about me is chickenshit.
...because you'd rather it be made about other people besides yourself.
When people
You.
Schneibster wrote: maliciously troll, yes, I do think it needs to be about malicious trolling. Like what you're doing here and in the Liar thread.
I'm responding to your nonsense,
You are claiming bullshit is not lies.
Merely stating bullshit (or, horseshit) doesn't mean one is "lying." That's true.
Schneibster wrote: I can't imagine saying anything more cruel. And it's true; the quote is in my signature, and you said it.

:dunno:
It's true. You're the only one around here taking issue with it. Perhaps you should leave the door open to the possibility that you are not thinking clearly. That would, of course, explain your reticence and refusal to answer the simple question I posed to you: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 5#p1054355

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Cunt » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:45 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:NIIYII, please.
Huh? :think:
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Cunt » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:45 pm

I don't think he even understands something simple like 'maiforpeace is not sharing with him anymore'. I am done trying to communicate seriously with him. Many want no more to do with him because of the way he communicates.

It must be all of us.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:46 pm

Schneibster wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
PordFrefect wrote:There is no truth
:fix:
I get it when someone does the 'fix' thing on something you wrote as a joke, but what's with attributing something to me that I didn't write at all? :ask:
If it's ping-ponging then both sides are equal. There is, then, no truth, since they are equal; if one is true, the other is false and they are unequal.

The claim of ping-ponging is therefore logically equivalent to the claim that there is no truth. I say that is false, and I am pointing it out sarcastically, which is what the "fix" fairy is for.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:48 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I'm responding to your nonsense,
You are claiming bullshit is not lies.
Merely stating bullshit (or, horseshit) doesn't mean one is "lying." That's true.
I never said anyone was lying. I said, "that's a lie."

For the fourth time.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:49 pm

Cunt wrote:I don't think he even understands something simple like 'maiforpeace is not sharing with him anymore'. I am done trying to communicate seriously with him. Many want no more to do with him because of the way he communicates.

It must be all of us.
Many here appear to think that if you don't let people lie about you you're "mean."

Sorry, I'm OK with that. Don't lie about me.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:51 pm

Cunt wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:NIIYII, please.
Huh? :think:
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:53 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:There is no truth
:fix:
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:54 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I'm responding to your nonsense,
You are claiming bullshit is not lies.
Merely stating bullshit (or, horseshit) doesn't mean one is "lying." That's true.
I never said anyone was lying. I said, "that's a lie."

For the fourth time.
Already addressed this. Something can't be a lie unless someone is lying. You still don't get that? A statement divorced from its intent is an untruth or a falsehood. A lie is only a lie as a function of the intent of a person making an assertion. You said yourself, Schneib. A lie must be "deliberately" made. That means that if one person says "the Civil War started in 1870" knowing it is false, and another person makes the same statement thinking it is true, then it is a lie when uttered by the first person, and it is not a lie when uttered by the second person. It's untrue in both cases, but it is a "lie" when one uttering it knows it to be false, and it is a mistake when someone honestly believes it is true.

Now that has been explained to you ad nauseaum, and it has been put in such plain terms to you that only a moron could fail to understand it. So, you're either a moron, or you get it but you're pretending not to for purposes only you are aware of.

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:59 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:There is no truth
:fix:
This is what I was talking about.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:59 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I'm responding to your nonsense,
You are claiming bullshit is not lies.
Merely stating bullshit (or, horseshit) doesn't mean one is "lying." That's true.
I never said anyone was lying. I said, "that's a lie."

For the fourth time.
Already addressed this. Something can't be a lie unless someone is lying.
Why does that have to be the person who said it here? That is and always has been the logical fallacy you will not admit. Already addressed four times, now five.

And if that weren't enough, you're on record saying "lies are not bullshit."

C'mon, man.
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