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Re: Psychopaths

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:55 am

Schneibster wrote:Yeah, unfortunately unreal premises generate fantasy conclusions. Enjoy the fantasy but don't blame me for it.
Get a sense of humor. Please.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:05 am

hadespussercats wrote:Get a sense of Let people dis reality and pretend it's humor. Please.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:12 am

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:00 pm

Schneibster wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:Okay, I'm back, at least for a bit, because it's an interesting thread. And I've never put anyone on "ignore" before, but maybe I'll give it a try. First, though:
Schneibster wrote:At some point, people who are insane become a threat to themselves and society. Currently we determine this by noting that they've hurt or killed someone. This seems a bit callous to me. Apparently not to you.
I realize Seth has already pointed this out, but I'd like to confirm that there are in fact many insane people who are no threat to society, and only a threat to themselves in that they can't organize their thoughts well enough to take care of themselves.
Those people are not psychopaths.
hadespussercats wrote:You deeply and personally offend me, Schneibster, when you suggest otherwise. You are clearly ignorant, and, again, to use a term you'll understand, paranoid about a certain stripe of the mentally ill.
You deeply and personally offend me, Hades, when you imply that I said it about anyone but psychopaths. I don't see this going anywhere. All I see is paranoia.

Convince me otherwise. I invite it; I would like it. i don't dislike you and this came out of left field. I will apologize again for my reaction, but it was not wholly because of Cunt.
I wanted to point out for the record that you, Schneibster, are the one who conflated "people who are insane" with "psychopaths."

And I've asked you a number of inconvenient questions to which you've neglected to respond.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:02 pm

hadespussercats wrote:I wanted to point out for the record that you, Schneibster, are the one who conflated "people who are insane" with "psychopaths."
Quote or it never happened. Tired of this; rachelbean, mai, now you. Prove it or don't say it.
hadespussercats wrote:And I've asked you a number of inconvenient questions to which you've neglected to respond.
I don't read anything after insults. It's an anti-trolling measure.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:05 pm

Schneibster wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Schneibster wrote:At some point, people who are insane become a threat to themselves and society. Currently we determine this by noting that they've hurt or killed someone. This seems a bit callous to me. Apparently not to you.
At some point "normal" people become a threat to themselves and others.

Say when they text and drive or put on makeup and drive or leave a toddler in a bathtub unsupervised or when they decide to see if the gun is loaded by looking down the barrel.

If a person is only a threat to themselves, what of it? Is coercive intervention justified?
That's not mental illness.
Gallstones wrote:And for my edification, what is it that schizophrenics and manic depressives lack?
Healthy brain chemistry.
And you, Schneibster, lack flexibility. Maybe I can encourage you to get some more therapy to mitigate that lack.

Unless you think it's inappropriate for me to suggest, but not force, therapy for your obvious mental lacks?
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:06 pm

hadespussercats wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Schneibster wrote:At some point, people who are insane become a threat to themselves and society. Currently we determine this by noting that they've hurt or killed someone. This seems a bit callous to me. Apparently not to you.
At some point "normal" people become a threat to themselves and others.

Say when they text and drive or put on makeup and drive or leave a toddler in a bathtub unsupervised or when they decide to see if the gun is loaded by looking down the barrel.

If a person is only a threat to themselves, what of it? Is coercive intervention justified?
That's not mental illness.
Gallstones wrote:And for my edification, what is it that schizophrenics and manic depressives lack?
Healthy brain chemistry.
And you, Schneibster, lack flexibility. Maybe I can encourage you to get some more therapy to mitigate that lack.

Unless you think it's inappropriate for me to suggest, but not force, therapy for your obvious mental lacks?
"Flexibility"is not gullibility.

I note you have not provided a quote.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:07 pm

Schneibster wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:I wanted to point out for the record that you, Schneibster, are the one who conflated "people who are insane" with "psychopaths."
Quote or it never happened. Tired of this; rachelbean, mai, now you. Prove it or don't say it.
hadespussercats wrote:And I've asked you a number of inconvenient questions to which you've neglected to respond.
I don't read anything after insults. It's an anti-trolling measure.
I have quoted it-- in the very comment you're referencing.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:09 pm

You'll find your requested quote here-- right where you left it when you snipped it out of your first response.
hadespussercats wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Schneibster wrote:At some point, people who are insane become a threat to themselves and society. Currently we determine this by noting that they've hurt or killed someone. This seems a bit callous to me. Apparently not to you.
At some point "normal" people become a threat to themselves and others.

Say when they text and drive or put on makeup and drive or leave a toddler in a bathtub unsupervised or when they decide to see if the gun is loaded by looking down the barrel.

If a person is only a threat to themselves, what of it? Is coercive intervention justified?
That's not mental illness.
Gallstones wrote:And for my edification, what is it that schizophrenics and manic depressives lack?
Healthy brain chemistry.
And you, Schneibster, lack flexibility. Maybe I can encourage you to get some more therapy to mitigate that lack.

Unless you think it's inappropriate for me to suggest, but not force, therapy for your obvious mental lacks?
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:10 pm

hadespussercats wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:I wanted to point out for the record that you, Schneibster, are the one who conflated "people who are insane" with "psychopaths."
Quote or it never happened. Tired of this; rachelbean, mai, now you. Prove it or don't say it.
hadespussercats wrote:And I've asked you a number of inconvenient questions to which you've neglected to respond.
I don't read anything after insults. It's an anti-trolling measure.
I have quoted it-- in the very comment you're referencing.
Sorry, don't see it. You'll need to be a lot more specific. You said something. That doesn't say what you claim.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:11 pm

Schneibster wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:I wanted to point out for the record that you, Schneibster, are the one who conflated "people who are insane" with "psychopaths."
Quote or it never happened. Tired of this; rachelbean, mai, now you. Prove it or don't say it.
Lulz.... http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 5#p1054264 and http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 5#p1052763

What was that you said about "prove it or don't say it?"

Take your own advice, bub!
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hadespussercats wrote:And I've asked you a number of inconvenient questions to which you've neglected to respond.
I don't read anything after insults. It's an anti-trolling measure.
So sayeth the troll king.

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:12 pm

Here is that same quote, in context.
hadespussercats wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:Okay, I'm back, at least for a bit, because it's an interesting thread. And I've never put anyone on "ignore" before, but maybe I'll give it a try. First, though:
Schneibster wrote:At some point, people who are insane become a threat to themselves and society. Currently we determine this by noting that they've hurt or killed someone. This seems a bit callous to me. Apparently not to you.
I realize Seth has already pointed this out, but I'd like to confirm that there are in fact many insane people who are no threat to society, and only a threat to themselves in that they can't organize their thoughts well enough to take care of themselves.
Those people are not psychopaths.
hadespussercats wrote:You deeply and personally offend me, Schneibster, when you suggest otherwise. You are clearly ignorant, and, again, to use a term you'll understand, paranoid about a certain stripe of the mentally ill.
You deeply and personally offend me, Hades, when you imply that I said it about anyone but psychopaths. I don't see this going anywhere. All I see is paranoia.

Convince me otherwise. I invite it; I would like it. i don't dislike you and this came out of left field. I will apologize again for my reaction, but it was not wholly because of Cunt.
I wanted to point out for the record that you, Schneibster, are the one who conflated "people who are insane" with "psychopaths."

And I've asked you a number of inconvenient questions to which you've neglected to respond.
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Re: Psychopaths

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:13 pm

Schneibster wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:I wanted to point out for the record that you, Schneibster, are the one who conflated "people who are insane" with "psychopaths."
Quote or it never happened. Tired of this; rachelbean, mai, now you. Prove it or don't say it.
hadespussercats wrote:And I've asked you a number of inconvenient questions to which you've neglected to respond.
I don't read anything after insults. It's an anti-trolling measure.
I have quoted it-- in the very comment you're referencing.
Sorry, don't see it. You'll need to be a lot more specific. You said something. That doesn't say what you claim.
That bothers you?

Here is "Da Schneib" saying something, and then backing it up with something "that doesn't say what [he] claim." http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 5#p1054333

It is to laugh....

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Re: Psychopaths

Post by hadespussercats » Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:14 pm

hadespussercats wrote:Here is that same quote, in context.
hadespussercats wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:Okay, I'm back, at least for a bit, because it's an interesting thread. And I've never put anyone on "ignore" before, but maybe I'll give it a try. First, though:
Schneibster wrote:At some point, people who are insane become a threat to themselves and society. Currently we determine this by noting that they've hurt or killed someone. This seems a bit callous to me. Apparently not to you.
I realize Seth has already pointed this out, but I'd like to confirm that there are in fact many insane people who are no threat to society, and only a threat to themselves in that they can't organize their thoughts well enough to take care of themselves.
Those people are not psychopaths.
hadespussercats wrote:You deeply and personally offend me, Schneibster, when you suggest otherwise. You are clearly ignorant, and, again, to use a term you'll understand, paranoid about a certain stripe of the mentally ill.
You deeply and personally offend me, Hades, when you imply that I said it about anyone but psychopaths. I don't see this going anywhere. All I see is paranoia.

Convince me otherwise. I invite it; I would like it. i don't dislike you and this came out of left field. I will apologize again for my reaction, but it was not wholly because of Cunt.
I wanted to point out for the record that you, Schneibster, are the one who conflated "people who are insane" with "psychopaths."

And I've asked you a number of inconvenient questions to which you've neglected to respond.
To clarify-- If insane people are not all psychopaths, don't refer to psychopaths by calling them people who are insane. Thanks.
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