Psychopaths

[Schneibster]

At some point, people who are insane become a threat to themselves and society. Currently we determine this by noting that they've hurt or killed someone. This seems a bit callous to me. Apparently not to you.

At some point "normal" people become a threat to themselves and others.

Say when they text and drive or put on makeup and drive or leave a toddler in a bathtub unsupervised or when they decide to see if the gun is loaded by looking down the barrel.

If a person is only a threat to themselves, what of it? Is coercive intervention justified?

That's not mental illness.

And for my edification, what is it that schizophrenics and manic depressives lack?

Healthy brain chemistry.

[Cunt]

Ah, 'brain chemistry'! Well that settles that then.

[Schneibster]

Ah, 'brain chemistry'! Well that settles that then.

Obfuscation.

[Cunt]

So it sounds like if people are a threat to themselves and others, but can't be labelled crazy, that's okay with you, but if people have something you can label, then they need intervention because they may be a threat to themselves and others. That about sum it up?

[Schneibster]

So it sounds like if people are a threat to themselves and others, but can't be labelled crazy, that's okay with you, but if people have something you can label, then they need intervention because they may be a threat to themselves and others. That about sum it up?

Not really but you won't listen to anything different.

[Gallstones]

I'm not gonna argue with someone's emotions. Think then speak. Drop the emotionalism. It's not a very good substitute for thought. Gallstones has caught on. Watch her. She's smart.

Thank you for the compliment.

You need to know though that my emotionalism blows hades' out of the water.
I can link you to my last meltdown, it was a little over a year ago.

I have an incurable disorder and refuse treatment.
But, I function like an overachiever most of the time.
I am not a danger to others, but my perspective can change in an instant and I can be a hairs breath away from self harm.
My family taught me to be ashamed of what I probably inherited from them, and they blame me for it.
I have learned how to pretend to be "normal" during the bad times (I'm probably in denial about how well this serves me)--a sort of dysfunctional cognitive self-treatment.
It is a survival skill.
I only found dignity by reading a book.

Today I am doing quite well. But I am coming off four days of doing not well at all, where it was as bad as it gets.

Thing is I have a lifetime of familiarity with the volatility of my state of mind. Day follows night follows day follows night.....I ride it out. Someday, I might not bear up to the bad time. Someday I might decide I've had enough and stop the whole process once and for all. But if I do, I will do it alone.

Thing is, I don't feel there is anything to be fixed. And I will not alter what is my "normal", pharmaceutically suppress aspects of myself to please those who would have me changed to facilitate their comfort. I tried them, cocktails of drugs for many years. Drugs won't make me "normal". I do not speak for anyone but myself. I know people who have the same disorder who are grateful for what the right drugs can do for them. It is just not a choice I make.

[hadespussercats]

Gallstones, I'm glad you've got my back. And you are smart. I like watching you... post.

Or whatever it is I'm supposed to be watching you do.

I am also smart. I'm smart enough to wonder why a man who sees people without emotions to be such a dread threat to society advised me to drop mine, since they apparently weren't helping my argument.

I'm also smart enough not to care too much what he'll write in his defense on that point.

[Schneibster]

I'm not gonna argue with someone's emotions. Think then speak. Drop the emotionalism. It's not a very good substitute for thought. Gallstones has caught on. Watch her. She's smart.

Thank you for the compliment.

You need to know though that my emotionalism blows hades' out of the water.
I can link you to my last meltdown, it was a little over a year ago.

I haven't seen anything but how you've behaved here. I base my estimates on that. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again. However, you're asking the good questions.

I have an incurable disorder and refuse treatment.
But, I function like an overachiever most of the time.
I am not a danger to others, but my perspective can change in an instant and I can be a hairs breath away from self harm.
My family taught me to be ashamed of what I probably inherited from them, and they blame me for it.
I have learned how to pretend to be "normal" during the bad times (I'm probably in denial about how well this serves me)--a sort of dysfunctional cognitive self-treatment.
It is a survival skill.
I only found dignity by reading a book.

Today I am doing quite well. But I am coming off four days of doing not well at all, where it was as bad as it gets.

Thing is I have a lifetime of familiarity with the volatility of my state of mind. Day follows night follows day follows night.....I ride it out. Someday, I might not bear up to the bad time. Someday I might decide I've had enough and stop the whole process once and for all. But if I do, I will do it alone.

Thing is, I don't feel there is anything to be fixed. And I will not alter what is my "normal", pharmaceutically suppress aspects of myself to please those who would have me changed to facilitate their comfort. I tried them, cocktails of drugs for many years. Drugs won't make me "normal". I do not speak for anyone but myself. I know people who have the same disorder who are grateful for what the right drugs can do for them. It is just not a choice I make.

Drugs are only useful to combat organic problems, or enable other therapy. You can't fix emotional problems with drugs. You can tamp them down enough to let you learn the brain skills you need to be happy.

I know where you're coming from. It hurts a lot, and I let them eat my heart because it hurt so good.

[Schneibster]

I'm smart enough to wonder why a man who sees people without emotions

People without emotions are impossible. That's far deeper than cognition. You'd have to not have a body, and not have a central brain. Science fiction.

[Schneibster]

hades, stop trying to stuff me in one of your boxes. It's insulting.

[Cunt]

hadespussercats, will you stuff me in your box? I won't be insulted

[hadespussercats]

hadespussercats, will you stuff me in your box? I won't be insulted

I was hoping you'd ask.

[Schneibster]

Yeah, unfortunately unreal premises generate fantasy conclusions. Enjoy the fantasy but don't blame me for it.

[apophenia]

I'm too tired lazy to read this thread tonight, but if it hasn't been brought up, the following paper may be of interest to those wondering about psychopathy in the general community, specifically in the circle of upper level business management.

Corporate psychopathy: Talking the walk — Babiak, Neumann and Hare

[Schneibster]

Nice, apo.