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Post by Schneibster » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:47 pm

Gallstones wrote:I think if a person is professionally ethical and politically effective, then their personal or moral faults are not important. They are public servants elected to do a job, I don't want to marry one of them.
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Post by Warren Dew » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:58 pm

Schneibster wrote:Not even bothering to deny it, this time. "Between consenting adults none of the press' business."
Cain did deny it. Your quote is from his lawyer, who is presumably not privy to any personal conversations that may have occurred..
amused wrote:National-level politicians are the Alpha Apes on steroids. It would be bizarre if they weren't fucking around. It only becomes an issue when they pander to the so-called values voters, and pretend that they are paragons of middle class morality.
It didn't work out too well for Edwards, either, so it's not just a "values" issue.

I suspect it's a little different. Voters who have affairs may actually prefer candidates who also have them, since that can assauge their guilt. Voters who don't have affairs may be more likely to disapprove. Then there are some voters who may see cheating on one's spouse as an indication of greater willingness to cheat on the electorate, as well.

Of course, the candidate may have some incentive to quit running in order to avoid continued damage control on the candidate's marriage, and not just on the campaign.

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Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:28 am

Warren Dew wrote:
Schneibster wrote:Not even bothering to deny it, this time. "Between consenting adults none of the press' business."
Cain did deny it. Your quote is from his lawyer, who is presumably not privy to any personal conversations that may have occurred...
Hole in the dike.

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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:38 am

Cain is reassessing the viability of his campaign with these new allegations.

You think? :hehe:
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Post by drl2 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:53 am

maiforpeace wrote:I wonder what Herman and Ginger had to talk about in 61 phone and text messages...pizza toppings?
They were exchanging photos of Anthony Weiner. :hehe:
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Post by JimC » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:16 am

amused wrote:National-level politicians are the Alpha Apes on steroids. It would be bizarre if they weren't fucking around. It only becomes an issue when they pander to the so-called values voters, and pretend that they are paragons of middle class morality.
There is some truth in this...

Aussie politicians seem to find it hard to keep it in their pants...

Google Billy Sneddon...

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Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:38 am

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Post by amused » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:56 pm

Cain's best reaction would be to admit to the affair (assuming it's true) and ask for forgiveness. Lay it all out and let the media have their week of fun with it. A month from now it would be a footnote. But if he keeps lying about it, it never goes away.

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Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:59 pm

That mighta worked for one.
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Post by Schneibster » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:03 am

Turns out his wife didn't know about the whole affair thingie. Especially not the part where he gave her money.

Oopsie.

Looks like they got a little private talk to have.

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Post by tattuchu » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:20 pm

If she needed money, why didn't Cain tell her to pull herself up by her own bootstraps? :ddpan:
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Post by klr » Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:13 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16019624
US Republican Herman Cain suspends campaign

US presidential hopeful Herman Cain has said he is suspending his campaign for the Republican nomination.


He blamed political and media pressure on his family in the wake of "false" allegations of sexual harassment and a 13-year-long extra-marital affair.

"I am not going to be silenced and I'm not going away," he told supporters in his home city of Atlanta, Georgia.

Next month, voters in Iowa will begin the process of choosing a Republican presidential candidate for 2012.

Mr Cain said the allegations against him had taken a toll on his family, but added: "I am at peace."

"I am suspending my presidential campaign because of the continued distraction, the continued hurt caused on me and my family," he told supporters at what had been billed as the opening of his campaign headquarters.

"These false and unproved allegations continue to be spinned in the media and in the court of public opinion so as to create a cloud of doubt over me and this campaign and my family," he said.

He said he would endorse another candidate at a later date but gave no hint of where he would direct his supporters to go.

Tweets of praise

On Friday Mr Cain discussed with his wife, Gloria, whether to press on with his campaign.

Last week, an Atlanta woman, Ginger White, 46, came forward to claim she had a 13-year affair with Mr Cain.

Speaking to MSNBC on Thursday, Ms White denied they had been in love, saying: "It was a sexual affair - as hard as that is for me to say."

While rejecting any suggestion of an affair with Ms White, Mr Cain has acknowledged helping pay her monthly bills and expenses, and that his wife did not know about the friendship.

The BBC's Marcus George, in Washington DC, says even before the questions arose about Mr Cain's private life, there were doubts about his plans for tax reform and his understanding of foreign affairs.

The former pizza executive went from obscure longshot to unlikely frontrunner to tabloid fodder.

While Mr Cain's ratings slumped, support for former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich has surged.

Mr Gingrich has now overtaken frontrunner Mitt Romney in some opinion polls on who should be the Republican candidate to challenge Barack Obama for the White House in November 2012.

Within minutes of his speech, rival Republican candidates Michele Bachmann and Jon Huntsman, as well as Mr Gingrich, had tweeted their praise for Mr Cain.

"Herman Cain provided an important voice. His ideas & energy generated tremendous enthusiasm for the conservative movement," Michele Bachmann tweeted.

Mr Gingrich's tweet said: "I am proud to know Herman Cain and consider him a friend and I know he will continue to be a powerful voice for years to come."

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Mr Cain made his announcement before the series of state-by-state contests, known as primaries and caucuses, begins next month in Iowa to to choose the Republican nominee.

The former Godfather's Pizza chief executive - who has never won an election - was propelled by conservative Tea Party support to the front of the Republican field in October.

Portraying himself as a business-savvy, anti-establishment outsider, he captured the spotlight with his folksy charm and catchy 9-9-9 tax reform proposal.

But supporters were also alarmed when he made confusing comments about abortion and badly fumbled a question on Libya policy in a recorded interview.
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Re: Cain Now Has 3 Harassment Accusers

Post by Schneibster » Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:34 pm

When I told the Schneibsteress this she said, "You know what would happen if you 'forgot' to tell me about the money you 'loaned' a woman, right?" :what:

I said "I would hope to know better than for it ever to be a question, dear." I wanna live.
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