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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:46 am

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Gawdzilla wrote:The right to peaceful protest seems to have been lost somewhere.
There will probably be protesters at the Reason Rally. I'm guessing guns aren't allowed on the National Mall though.
Do we know where the venue will be, exactly? I'd like to be able to slip off to the Smitty during some of the speeches.
It just says the National Mall on the Reason Rally site...that could be anywhere. I've never been there but here are some maps.

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I'll keep an eye on the site, as they closer they'll announce the venue.
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The Mall is miles long, mai.
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Schneibster wrote:The Mall is miles long, mai.
Capitol Hill to Lincoln's nose, at least a mile.
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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:52 am

Gawdzilla wrote:I'll keep an eye on the site, as they closer they'll announce the venue.
If you're lucky it will be near the Smithsonian then.

You know who I will miss this time around visiting Washington D.C. since the AAI event? The Hitch. :( I have an awful feeling that bad news is imminent.
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I make it two miles more or less from the Capitol to the Lincoln Memorial, a bit more from 1st St NE to the Potomac.
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Schneibster wrote:I make it two miles more or less from the Capitol to the Lincoln Memorial, a bit more from 1st St NE to the Potomac.
Near as damnit. :tup:
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I make it two miles more or less from the Capitol to the Lincoln Memorial, a bit more from 1st St NE to the Potomac.
More nearly three miles. 2.7 or so I believe. It's a long walk from one end to the other. I was there for the Glenn Beck 8/28 rally and walked the whole thing twice.
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Schneibster wrote:I make it two miles more or less from the Capitol to the Lincoln Memorial, a bit more from 1st St NE to the Potomac.
Near as damnit. :tup:
I've walked it.
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Seth wrote: No, I established that obstructing is a crime. You don't have to disobey an instruction to stop, you can be arrested simply for obstructing:
Nobody's disputing that. That's the bleedn obvious.
Your post wrote: Yes, actually, it is:
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(1) (a) A person commits obstructing a peace officer, firefighter, emergency medical services provider, rescue specialist, or volunteer when, by using or threatening to use violence, force, physical interference, or an obstacle, such person knowingly obstructs, impairs, or hinders the enforcement of the penal law or the preservation of the peace by a peace officer, acting under color of his or her official authority;
It's perfectly clear that doing nothing doesn't fulfill any of these criteria. Not unless you are already doing them.
Your claim that failing to obey an instruction ON IT'S OWN is obstruction is obviously false.
There may have been a few cases where an officer has tried, or even succeeded in claiming that distracting his attention is obstruction. That's not using or threatening to use violence, force, physical interference or an obstacle.
A few silly rulings in local hick courts doesn't make it a fact.
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Schneibster wrote:I make it two miles more or less from the Capitol to the Lincoln Memorial, a bit more from 1st St NE to the Potomac.
Near as damnit. :tup:
I've walked it.
So have I, Nov. 1992 last time.
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Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:37 am

My 40th birthday was a week in DC. We went to all the museums, saw the Declaration, and so forth. I had a great time.
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Post by mistermack » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:51 am

I just looked at the video.
Seth's claim that the officers were trapped in the circle is ridiculous.
The first cop to start spraying stepped OVER the students, INTO the ring to start spraying. There was no way those cops were intimidated. If anything, they outnumbered the students.

I see they've suspended two of them. I am not surprised. I've never seen such a ridiculous over-use of force.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:52 am

mistermack wrote:I just looked at the video.
Seth's claim that the officers were trapped in the circle is ridiculous.
The first cop to start spraying stepped OVER the students, INTO the ring to start spraying. There was no way those cops were intimidated. If anything, they outnumbered the students.

I see they've suspended two of them. I am not surprised. I've never seen such a ridiculous over-use of force.
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Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:55 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
mistermack wrote:I just looked at the video.
Seth's claim that the officers were trapped in the circle is ridiculous.
The first cop to start spraying stepped OVER the students, INTO the ring to start spraying. There was no way those cops were intimidated. If anything, they outnumbered the students.

I see they've suspended two of them. I am not surprised. I've never seen such a ridiculous over-use of force.
Seth's reality requires much more elaborate constructs than the mundane variety.
Is the police chief still under suspension too? I haven't bothered to check. My impression was her head was for the axe.
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