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Post by DaveD » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:57 pm

I have nothing but disdain for someone who would have millions of pets euthenised just to score a political point.
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Re: People on Benefits / Welfare - with pets

Post by Gallstones » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:58 pm

DaveD wrote:I have nothing but disdain for someone who would have millions of pets euthenised just to score a political point.
Unfortunately millions of pets are euthanized simply because there is no space for them--no homes.
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Post by Schneibster » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:00 am

What's worse is the ones who are just left there. I'd rather see them euthanized than starve to death. I'd do it myself if those were the only available choices.
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Post by DaveD » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:01 am

Gallstones wrote:
DaveD wrote:I have nothing but disdain for someone who would have millions of pets euthenised just to score a political point.
Unfortunately millions of pets are euthanized simply because there is no space for them--no homes.
But there are plenty of unemployed people with time to spare to care for some of them....
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Re: People on Benefits / Welfare - with pets

Post by Gallstones » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:06 am

Schneibster wrote:What's worse is the ones who are just left there. I'd rather see them euthanized than starve to death. I'd do it myself if those were the only available choices.
They don't starve in shelters except of interaction, which is harsh enough.

Every dog I've ever had as an adult has been adopted from a shelter.
Kept them all for life.
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Re: People on Benefits / Welfare - with pets

Post by Gallstones » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:08 am

DaveD wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
DaveD wrote:I have nothing but disdain for someone who would have millions of pets euthenised just to score a political point.
Unfortunately millions of pets are euthanized simply because there is no space for them--no homes.
But there are plenty of unemployed people with time to spare to care for some of them....
More adult cats languish in shelters than do dogs. And cats don't cost that much to feed.
Still, a pet is a lifetime commitment and not just an accessory to one's lifestyle. The unemployed may not be in position to make that commitment.
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Post by Schneibster » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:15 am

Gallstones wrote:
Schneibster wrote:What's worse is the ones who are just left there. I'd rather see them euthanized than starve to death. I'd do it myself if those were the only available choices.
They don't starve in shelters except of interaction, which is harsh enough.

Every dog I've ever had as an adult has been adopted from a shelter.
Kept them all for life.
I'm talking about ones that get left in houses being foreclosed on to starve.

ETA: You and I are alike in this, I think: my girls were black cats, which must be kept inside to prevent them being tortured by the ignorant, and my good boy is a ginger from the street who was starving, had a floating rib, and had stripped all his lower incisors pulling feathers off birds and couldn't pull them any more when I took him in. He doesn't want to go outside any more. Inside is much better.
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Re: People on Benefits / Welfare - with pets

Post by Santa_Claus » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:16 am

DaveD wrote:I have nothing but disdain for someone who would have millions of pets euthenised just to score a political point.
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It's simply an economic point. Comes a point when have to stop giving cash to pay for stupidity. and BTW I never proposed a mass cull - animal could be rehoused (probably won't be :hehe: - but could be).

If it was political I would kill the whole family. But I am not a Republican. :cheer:
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Re: People on Benefits / Welfare - with pets

Post by Gallstones » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:19 am

Schneibster wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Schneibster wrote:What's worse is the ones who are just left there. I'd rather see them euthanized than starve to death. I'd do it myself if those were the only available choices.
They don't starve in shelters except of interaction, which is harsh enough.

Every dog I've ever had as an adult has been adopted from a shelter.
Kept them all for life.
I'm talking about ones that get left in houses being foreclosed on to starve.
Euthanize the people who do that.
A person could at least leave a window open for escape.
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Re: People on Benefits / Welfare - with pets

Post by Svartalf » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:30 am

DaveD wrote:
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DaveD wrote:I have nothing but disdain for someone who would have millions of pets euthenised just to score a political point.
Unfortunately millions of pets are euthanized simply because there is no space for them--no homes.
But there are plenty of unemployed people with time to spare to care for some of them....
and who'll give them the money to lavish on the basics of pet ownership? food, basic accessories like collars and eating dishes, vet money etc?
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Re: People on Benefits - with pets

Post by Millefleur » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:48 am

Robert_S wrote:My feeling is: If you have a pet and encounter hard enough times that you need assistance, then you should be able to spend some of that money on the pet.

However; unless you're really so depressed that you need a furry friend to keep the razor from the wrist, then you have no business acquiring a pet or offspring when you're getting financial assistance from either the state or from private charity.
:this: Although I'm not sure about the depressed bit, I mean, people such as my brother who'll need state benefits his entire life need a little joy. Whether it's a pet, cinema trips, a hobby, whatever, in some situations I think the state should pay for a little enjoyment for those who are genuinely unable to earn the money for it themselves.

My sister wrote a lamebook-worthy facebook status sometime last year - she was having a major strop because she'd not received her benefits that day and needed the money right now or she'd be late picking up and paying for her new puppy :fp:
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Re: People on Benefits / Welfare - with pets

Post by Schneibster » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:55 am

Gallstones wrote:
Schneibster wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Schneibster wrote:What's worse is the ones who are just left there. I'd rather see them euthanized than starve to death. I'd do it myself if those were the only available choices.
They don't starve in shelters except of interaction, which is harsh enough.

Every dog I've ever had as an adult has been adopted from a shelter.
Kept them all for life.
I'm talking about ones that get left in houses being foreclosed on to starve.
Euthanize the people who do that.
A person could at least leave a window open for escape.
They get evicted and the cat doesn't come home in time.

That might be how my Cappy got done. His family disappeared from the apartment complex. They don't tell people about other peoples' financial problems. In fact it's illegal.
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Re: People on Benefits - with pets

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:11 am

Santa_Claus wrote:...If you are spending money on a pet, then clearly you have more money (from the State) than you actually need...
Keeping people on basic survival rations is not a great help to their employability.
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Re: People on Benefits - with pets

Post by Drewish » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:18 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Santa_Claus wrote:...If you are spending money on a pet, then clearly you have more money (from the State) than you actually need...
Keeping people on basic survival rations is not a great help to their employability.
Even less so for animal.
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Re: People on Benefits - with pets

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:24 am

andrewclunn wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Santa_Claus wrote:...If you are spending money on a pet, then clearly you have more money (from the State) than you actually need...
Keeping people on basic survival rations is not a great help to their employability.
Even less so for animal.
Could you re-phrase that so it makes sense?..
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