"Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by Rum » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:32 pm

Just finished listening to a news item on the BBC world service (digital radio and highly recommended btw) about the current pack of Repulblican rep candidates, which concluded a couple of things - both scary.

1. That despite their many and obvious failings in the agenda department (lack of any level of sophistication r.e. foreign policy for example) people would vote for them because of their 'proximity' to their own values.
2. That they wanted someone who , unlike the previous Bush post holders, were genuinely right wing!

Can someone recommend another planet to move to please?

On the plus side Obama, my own personal vote if I had one, but rather unpopular given the economy one reads, might stay in by default.

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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by Svartalf » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:33 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Where we goin' get a Roosevelt these days?
Sorry, no livng democrat has that much balls, they have to cut off all they have beyond Alan Alda sensitive good for nothing.
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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:52 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:I read something in the paper at the weekend that made me snort.

"The current crop of Republican candidates make George Bush look like Aristotle"
Valid point - indeed wasn't Bush Junior not, in his day, a "bugger for the bottle"? :ask:
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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:56 pm

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Clinton Huxley wrote:I read something in the paper at the weekend that made me snort.

"The current crop of Republican candidates make George Bush look like Aristotle"
Valid point - indeed wasn't Bush Junior not, in his day, a "bugger for the bottle"? :ask:
He was a dry drunk in the White House.
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:25 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:I read something in the paper at the weekend that made me snort.

"The current crop of Republican candidates make George Bush look like Aristotle"
Valid point - indeed wasn't Bush Junior not, in his day, a "bugger for the bottle"? :ask:
He was a dry drunk in the White House.
That was why he stopped looking like Aristotle.
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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by drl2 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:56 pm

The Texans on The Atheist Experience said when Perry became governor after GWB moved on, the locals began to refer to Perry as "the dumb one".
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Post by Schneibster » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:58 pm

andrewclunn wrote:I had a quick conversation on Google+ about this. I think I'll post that here:
Good move. <-not sarcasm.
andrewclunn wrote:Not Ron Paul, Jon Huntsman, or Gary Johnson.

Yeah, I noticed that Ron Paul was again the lone dissenting voice at this farce. Huntsman and Johnson are too much real Republicans to be voted in by whatever the GOP has turned into. In a sane world, the current poll numbers would be reversed.
Huntsman's too sane to get elected by the folks who are the target of the flacks. Johnson I know nothing of but if he's mentioned with Huntsman he's probably too sane too.
andrewclunn wrote:Yeah, my issue is with the assertion that somehow people like Santorum are more legitimate Republicans than the ones I mentioned. Of course this is coming from the horribly bias French Rag known as Slate, so it's not exactly surprising.To be fair, has any conservative commentator (besides David Frum) made any attempt to distinguish between the whackos and serious conservatives?
I don't listen to them but I'll take your word they haven't.
andrewclunn wrote:It's a chicken and egg problem. If the label of 'conservative' applies only to a certain subset of those that generally vote Republican, than no. However the Republican party is about more than simply the modern conservative movement. It's very much a party in conflict right now. And I understand why left-leaning media outlets want to legitimize the craziest on the GOP side as being the "true" Republicans, but they do so at their own expense. They are not forcing themselves to be the only electable party by doing so, merely moving their opposition further and further right.I don't know, it's kind of off-putting to read some of the things these Republican candidates really believe and I don't think you need the liberal media to show that. Personally over the past few years, I have felt the Republican party moving away from me, rather than me becoming more liberal.
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andrewclunn wrote:Have one of them win the nomination :D

Holding out hope for Huntsman with a surprise win.
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Post by Gawd » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:28 am

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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by rab » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:36 am

If Herman Cain thinks that Christians haven't been fighting back, I'd like to see his definition of not fighting. The Christian right has infiltrated our school boards, our city councils, and our politics and winning elections. How in hell is that being passive?

If anything, the rationalists in this country have been too passive. We need to marginalize this insanity and bring the country to the 21st century. We are dealing with people who want to turn the clock back before the enlightenment.
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Post by Schneibster » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:00 am

Gawd wrote:Americans.
Stereotyping is a typical racist activity.
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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by maiforpeace » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:07 am

rab wrote:If Herman Cain thinks that Christians haven't been fighting back, I'd like to see his definition of not fighting. The Christian right has infiltrated our school boards, our city councils, and our politics and winning elections. How in hell is that being passive?

If anything, the rationalists in this country have been too passive. We need to marginalize this insanity and bring the country to the 21st century. We are dealing with people who want to turn the clock back before the enlightenment.
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Post by Tero » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:18 am

Theocracy, rule by Beaver? I vote for that!
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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by rab » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:19 am

maiforpeace wrote:
rab wrote:If Herman Cain thinks that Christians haven't been fighting back, I'd like to see his definition of not fighting. The Christian right has infiltrated our school boards, our city councils, and our politics and winning elections. How in hell is that being passive?

If anything, the rationalists in this country have been too passive. We need to marginalize this insanity and bring the country to the 21st century. We are dealing with people who want to turn the clock back before the enlightenment.
When it comes to science in the US, this is what scares me:

Religious Lobbying Groups Have Dramatically Increased In Washington: Study
Wow, the secular lobbying is at a whole 2 %!! Woo Woo! Watch out Herman Cain, we're coming for ya!
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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by Azathoth » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:24 am

maiforpeace wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote: If one of these Republican clowns get elected, it will be only with the complicity of the religious "moderates" we're supposed to coddle. Remember that not everyone supporting these people is a fundamentalist or Biblical literalist.
Indeed, some of them are atheists. 8-)
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Re: "Republicans insane; want to establish theocracy"

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:25 am

Azathoth wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote: If one of these Republican clowns get elected, it will be only with the complicity of the religious "moderates" we're supposed to coddle. Remember that not everyone supporting these people is a fundamentalist or Biblical literalist.
Indeed, some of them are atheists. 8-)
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