Police Pepper Spray Peaceful UC Davis Students

[Schneibster]

Actually, Seth, they've suspended the cops and the police chief.

Wrong again. Poor Seth.

Not "suspended,"

Lie.

UC Davis Police Chief Suspended
Pepper Spray: US Campus Police Suspended

Not suspended, placed on administrative leave, which is the part you neatly elided.

Lie.

The names of the suspended officers were not released.

Source.

[Schneibster]

Occupation protests by students can be expected at Davis in the coming days and weeks. Under no circumstances will police use weapons, including chemical weapons, against students not presenting an immediate threat of violence. Anyone responsible for an episode such as occurred at Berkeley last week will be summarily suspended without pay, and probably dismissed permanently. Responsible for includes failing to prevent; I will not have Davis known as a place where the police abuse non-violent members of our community.

Source. Too bad they didn't issue it before they committed all those torts. Duh.

[Seth]

Occupation protests by students can be expected at Davis in the coming days and weeks. Under no circumstances will police use weapons, including chemical weapons, against students not presenting an immediate threat of violence. Anyone responsible for an episode such as occurred at Berkeley last week will be summarily suspended without pay, and probably dismissed permanently. Responsible for includes failing to prevent; I will not have Davis known as a place where the police abuse non-violent members of our community.

Source. Too bad they didn't issue it before they committed all those torts. Duh.

Changing the rules of engagement for the police after the fact, to cover his ass against leftist outrage doesn't mean that the previous orders under which the police were operating were invalid. There's no "torts" involved because the individuals were engaged in illegal conduct and the police response was authorized and reasonable.

[Schneibster]

Occupation protests by students can be expected at Davis in the coming days and weeks. Under no circumstances will police use weapons, including chemical weapons, against students not presenting an immediate threat of violence. Anyone responsible for an episode such as occurred at Berkeley last week will be summarily suspended without pay, and probably dismissed permanently. Responsible for includes failing to prevent; I will not have Davis known as a place where the police abuse non-violent members of our community.

Source. Too bad they didn't issue it before they committed all those torts. Duh.

Changing the rules of engagement for the police after the fact, to cover his ass against leftist outrage

Lie. Lawsuits.

[Hermit]

to cover his ass against leftist outrage doesn't mean that the previous orders under which the police were operating were invalid.

He? The Chancellor is Linda Katehi, and neither she nor anyone else ordered the police to use pepper spray on people sitting on the footpath.


The Chancellor

[Schneibster]

He?

Seth's wrong again. Three times so far on this thread.

[Hermit]

He?

Seth's wrong again. Three times so far on this thread.

Surprised? I think his ideological blinkers make him impervious to facts, both, receiving and disseminating them. Not that it matters to him, as long as he can admire the look of his posts, resplendent with his favourite words, such as "menadacious" and "Alinski", with the occasional "estopple" (sic) thrown in just because.

[Schneibster]

He?

Seth's wrong again. Three times so far on this thread.

Surprised?

Nope.

I think his ideological blinkers make him impervious to facts, both, receiving and disseminating them. Not that it matters to him, as long as he can admire the look of his posts, resplendent with his favourite words, such as "menadacious" and "Alinski" with the occasional "estopple" (sic) thrown in.

Snicker.

I remember when I read the Thomas Covenant trilogy being disgusted with "chrysoprastic" and "anile."

[maiforpeace]

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[Seth]

to cover his ass against leftist outrage doesn't mean that the previous orders under which the police were operating were invalid.

He? The Chancellor is Linda Katehi, and neither she nor anyone else ordered the police to use pepper spray on people sitting on the footpath.

Sorry, "she." And it's clear that the police were under orders to remove the protesters:

UPDATE: Nov. 19, 11:55 a.m. -- Claudia Morain, a UC Davis spokesperson, told The Huffington Post that there were 35 police officers on the scene, 50 occupiers and 200 bystanders.

She said that UC Davis officials had warned the occupiers that they could not set up a tent city. They were given notice that they had to clear out their tents by 3 p.m. on Friday. Some complied. Others did not.

"I can't speak for the thought process for the officer," Morain noted about the use of pepper spray. She said that the officers were essentially trapped (the videos suggest otherwise) and had to transport several of the arrested students. "The pepper spray was used because they needed to get out of there," she said, emphasizing that the students were repeatedly warned before the spray was deployed.

Morain admitted that she had not thoroughly studied the videos of the incident.

But she said, "We are just not going to allow a tent city. Just period. In these budget times, we shouldn't use resources that should be going to our core academic mission going to a tent city."

Nine students and one nonstudent were arrested. "The police tried to use the least force that they could," Morain explained.

The individual who applied the spray was, according to one report, a lieutenant. Being a lieutenant, he was likely in command of the police on the scene and made the command decision to use pepper spray, which is a common tactic used by police against protesters. So yes, "orders" were evidently given by a person in command authority pursuant (presumably, in the absence of other evidence to the contrary) to the department's standing policies and procedures on handling campus protests. If the Lieutenant violated those policies, the investigation ordered by the university will reveal that.

[Schneibster]

And it's clear that the police were under orders to remove the protesters:

By the suspended chief.

Duh.

[Seth]

And it's clear that the police were under orders to remove the protesters:

By the suspended chief.

Duh.

Who was placed on administrative leave (with pay), not suspended, by a backpedalling leftist bureaucrat who was trying to pour oil on the roiled waters (and said so) and was pandering to equally leftist students and faculty who were outraged that the protesters got what they deserved. The Chief is taking the bullet for the cowardice of the university administration who are failing to accept "full responsibility" (quote from the bureaucrat-in-chief who fucking well IS NOT taking ANY responsibility...if she was she would have resigned if she thought wrong was done) for directing the police to do what they did.

The Chief, and her subordinates, will be vindicated and returned to full duty without any sanctions because they did what they were required by the law and the campus's existing policies to do, in accordance with the authority granted to them by the University and the State of California. And if they aren't, they can and should sue the living shit out of the University and get a couple of million dollars apiece for being made the fall-guys for leftist apologia.

The lying sack-of-shit leftist Chancellor will either be forced to resign (thereby taking "full responsibility" as she said she would do) or she'll be replaced, which is exactly what needs to happen. Likely she'll be replaced by an equally cowardly leftist sympathizer, but that's UC Davis' problem.

[Schneibster]

And it's clear that the police were under orders to remove the protesters:

By the suspended chief.

Duh.

Who was placed on administrative leave (with pay), not suspended,

We already did this. You lost; you descended to insults.

Suspended is the correct word.

[Seth]

And it's clear that the police were under orders to remove the protesters:

By the suspended chief.

Duh.

Who was placed on administrative leave (with pay), not suspended,

We already did this. You lost; you descended to insults.

Suspended is the correct word.

Liar.

[maiforpeace]

BREAKING - UC Davis Chancellor Resigns After Pike Pepper Spray Incident