MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action (GAME)

[Don't Panic]

which still doesn't get past the fact that mz has been protown with his votes. I'm not saying i don't have doubts about him. But this really seems like a day we should be eliminating the big question marks from the game. For me that's the people who have done the least for town, and atm that's matt and dp. With feck getting an honorable mention.

can't argue with that, if Matt is scum at least it keeps it balanced, 2 town will hurt though.

[gib]

WHAT WE 'KNOW'

Listed in order of claim / death
Player --------- Role ------------- Power
char ----------- The Boss ---------- Doc
b.ternarius ---- Para-Medic ------ Mafia Goon
Adenosine ------ Raikov ----------- VT (confirmed)
zigmen -------- The Boss --------- Immune to friendly fire (?)
Andrew -------- Volgin ----------- Seer
Azathoth ------ EVA --------------- Scum Role Blocker / Town Traitor
irre ------------ The Fear --------- VT (confirmed)
DP -------------- Dr. Granin ------- VT
contra --------- The Fury --------- VT
amok ---------- Revolver Ocelot - Role Blocker
matt ----------- The Sorrow ------ VT
mz ------------- Johnny ----------- VT
ut -------------- The End ---------- VT
Feck ----------- The Pain --------- VT
gib ------------ Escape Ape ------- Survivor Bus Driver

- gib claims to have been bus driving charlou with other people every night
- andrew claims to have gotten GRU (town) while investigating irre on night 2 and mz in night 3
- charlou claims to have protects andrew on night 3
- There were no night actions night 1
- There was no death night 3

LYNCHEES
01 Amok
02 andrewclunn
03 charlou
04 Contra
05 DP [2] andrewclunn, charlou
06 Feck
07 gib
08 MagicZiggy [2] Contra, gib
09 MattShizzle [2] UselessTwit, Don't Panic
10 UselessTwit

more accruately - gib claims to have busdriven charlou with mattshizzle night 2 and night 3

[gib]

##vote matt##

Andrew is right, we should try to get full town involvement in this lynch.

who would u choose for the 2nd lynch if you could

probably dp, in fact i'm reconsidering matt just because he's on the wagon with me.

I was thinking contra earlier, but he's seeming much more town to me now that i've went back and looked at the votes. You're thinking mz is the don, bussed b.tern and aza and carried out the kill last night?

bussing b tern? Sure why not. Aza wouldn't have been a bus, scum don't usually know who the traitor is.

[gib]

I'm having trouble reconciling gib's claim with this post by gonzo.

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1037740

he flipped a coin for alignment and landed on indie?

again, this isn't mafia.

Gonzo please don't post to clear this up.

[gib]

What about the possibility of a fucked-up seer? ie insane/naive? As many weird twists as this game has had so far I wouldn't be surprised...

naive seer, sure why not? Ever since that run of crazy seer games at TR i've cared less and less about seer reads.

[Drewish]

WHAT WE 'KNOW'

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Listed in order of claim / death
Player --------- Role ------------- Power
char ----------- The Boss ---------- Doc
b.ternarius ---- Para-Medic ------ Mafia Goon
Adenosine ------ Raikov ----------- VT
zigmen -------- The Boss --------- Immune to friendly fire (NOT CONFIRMED UPON DEATH)
Andrew -------- Volgin ----------- Seer
Azathoth ------ EVA --------------- Scum Role Blocker / Town Traitor
irre ------------ The Fear --------- VT
DP -------------- Dr. Granin ------- VT
contra --------- The Fury --------- VT
amok ---------- Revolver Ocelot - Role Blocker
matt ----------- The Sorrow ------ VT
mz ------------- Johnny ----------- VT
ut -------------- The End ---------- VT
Feck ----------- The Pain --------- VT
gib ------------ Escape Ape ------- Survivor Bus Driver

- gib claims to have busdriven charlou with mattshizzle night 2 and night 3
- andrew claims to have gotten GRU (town) while investigating irre on night 2 and mz in night 3
- charlou claims to have protects andrew on night 3
- There were no night actions night 1
- There was no death night 3

CURRENT VOTE COUNT'

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

01 Amok
02 andrewclunn
03 charlou
04 Contra
05 DP [2] andrewclunn, charlou
06 Feck
07 gib
08 MagicZiggy [2] Contra, gib
09 MattShizzle [2] UselessTwit, Don't Panic
10 UselessTwit

So with everyone claiming there is no Vig, but 2 death happened on night 2...

[gib]

which still doesn't get past the fact that mz has been protown with his votes. I'm not saying i don't have doubts about him. But this really seems like a day we should be eliminating the big question marks from the game. For me that's the people who have done the least for town, and atm that's matt and dp. With feck getting an honorable mention.

again, voting Aza wouldn't have been a bus

i think we need to sort out a voting system for today so we get some kind of consensus going

[gib]

maybe keep 2 votes on shizzle, then decide on the main lynch

DP if you had a second vote where would you place it today?

[gib]

WHAT WE 'KNOW'

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Listed in order of claim / death
Player --------- Role ------------- Power
char ----------- The Boss ---------- Doc
b.ternarius ---- Para-Medic ------ Mafia Goon
Adenosine ------ Raikov ----------- VT
zigmen -------- The Boss --------- Immune to friendly fire (NOT CONFIRMED UPON DEATH)
Andrew -------- Volgin ----------- Seer
Azathoth ------ EVA --------------- Scum Role Blocker / Town Traitor
irre ------------ The Fear --------- VT
DP -------------- Dr. Granin ------- VT
contra --------- The Fury --------- VT
amok ---------- Revolver Ocelot - Role Blocker
matt ----------- The Sorrow ------ VT
mz ------------- Johnny ----------- VT
ut -------------- The End ---------- VT
Feck ----------- The Pain --------- VT
gib ------------ Escape Ape ------- Survivor Bus Driver

- gib claims to have busdriven charlou with mattshizzle night 2 and night 3
- andrew claims to have gotten GRU (town) while investigating irre on night 2 and mz in night 3
- charlou claims to have protects andrew on night 3
- There were no night actions night 1
- There was no death night 3

CURRENT VOTE COUNT'

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

01 Amok
02 andrewclunn
03 charlou
04 Contra
05 DP [2] andrewclunn, charlou
06 Feck
07 gib
08 MagicZiggy [2] Contra, gib
09 MattShizzle [2] UselessTwit, Don't Panic
10 UselessTwit

So with everyone claiming there is no Vig, but 2 death happened on night 2...

zigmen as no reveal SK makes more sense to me than janitor role

btw thanks for keeping the lists

[amok]

My problem with a Matt lynch is that I can't get a read of him, one way or another. I'm remembering how he got scolded at the end of the game I played with him, until he explained he has an attention issue and doesn't know what to say if he has no specific ideas. He got some good advice at that point, suggesting he has to be more involved anyway, ask a few questions, put down a few thoughts even if he's not sure they're important, so people can get a read of him. I'm sort of seeing him trying to that in this game.

This game is a mind fuck.

Outed specials are town imo.

For me to be scum I would have to be the don and I would have to have made the kill last night. Extending that logic, the other scum must have been under more suspicion than me (apparently not) for me to do the kill. So you can pair me with your biggest suspect.

Alternatively, unknown scum targets the outed seer who is protected.

Of course both scenarios could coincide.

I'm town. If I was scum I'd have bussed b.t., publicized the traitor role and been fairly heavily on the eventual traitor.

On reflection, I guess I am capable. But not on this occasion. Pure vanilla.

We've been had by someone evil.

When I read than, I started reconsidering. But looking back at the b.tern lynch, I'm not so sure. Contra had laid out solid case against her. A few people had pinged about her vote on andrew. I had already stated I would vote either b.tern or DP to save andrew before MZ voted. A bus would make sense.

I don't see a problem with Scum publicizing the Traitor role. In fact, it would be helpful for Scum to have Town looking over our shoulders for the Traitor instead of Scum hunting. Being on the eventual Traitor? Scum doesn't need the Traitor to win. A Traitor lynch would be preferrable to a Scum lynch, no?

##vote Magicziggy##

[gib]

amok: "My problem with a Matt lynch is that I can't get a read of him, one way or another."

exactly, until he gets involved no one can get a read on him which is precisely why we don't want him around at endgame

[Don't Panic]

maybe keep 2 votes on shizzle, then decide on the main lynch

DP if you had a second vote where would you place it today?

Mz probably. Still have a really bad feeling about charlou though.

[Drewish]

WHAT WE 'KNOW'

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Listed in order of claim / death
Player --------- Role ------------- Power
char ----------- The Boss ---------- Doc
b.ternarius ---- Para-Medic ------ Mafia Goon
Adenosine ------ Raikov ----------- VT
zigmen -------- The Boss --------- Immune to friendly fire (NOT CONFIRMED UPON DEATH)
Andrew -------- Volgin ----------- Seer
Azathoth ------ EVA --------------- Scum Role Blocker / Town Traitor
irre ------------ The Fear --------- VT
DP -------------- Dr. Granin ------- VT
contra --------- The Fury --------- VT
amok ---------- Revolver Ocelot - Role Blocker
matt ----------- The Sorrow ------ VT
mz ------------- Johnny ----------- VT
ut -------------- The End ---------- VT
Feck ----------- The Pain --------- VT
gib ------------ Escape Ape ------- Survivor Bus Driver

- gib claims to have busdriven charlou with mattshizzle night 2 and night 3
- andrew claims to have gotten GRU (town) while investigating irre on night 2 and mz in night 3
- charlou claims to have protects andrew on night 3
- There were no night actions night 1
- There was no death night 3

CURRENT VOTE COUNT'

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Amok
andrewclunn
charlou
Contra
DP [2] andrewclunn, charlou
Feck
gib
MagicZiggy [3] Contra, gib, Amok
MattShizzle [2] UselessTwit, Don't Panic
UselessTwit

My suspicions lie mostly with DP, MZ, Matt, and Feck so I'm happy with the present vote spread.

[Magicziggy]

I think it's contra. And maybe shizzle or DP
##vote contra##

[Uselesstwit]

WHAT WE 'KNOW'

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Listed in order of claim / death
Player --------- Role ------------- Power
char ----------- The Boss ---------- Doc
b.ternarius ---- Para-Medic ------ Mafia Goon
Adenosine ------ Raikov ----------- VT
zigmen -------- The Boss --------- Immune to friendly fire (NOT CONFIRMED UPON DEATH)
Andrew -------- Volgin ----------- Seer
Azathoth ------ EVA --------------- Scum Role Blocker / Town Traitor
irre ------------ The Fear --------- VT
DP -------------- Dr. Granin ------- VT
contra --------- The Fury --------- VT
amok ---------- Revolver Ocelot - Role Blocker
matt ----------- The Sorrow ------ VT
mz ------------- Johnny ----------- VT
ut -------------- The End ---------- VT
Feck ----------- The Pain --------- VT
gib ------------ Escape Ape ------- Survivor Bus Driver

- gib claims to have busdriven charlou with mattshizzle night 2 and night 3
- andrew claims to have gotten GRU (town) while investigating irre on night 2 and mz in night 3
- charlou claims to have protects andrew on night 3
- There were no night actions night 1
- There was no death night 3

CURRENT VOTE COUNT'

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Amok
andrewclunn
charlou
Contra
DP [2] andrewclunn, charlou
Feck
gib
MagicZiggy [3] Contra, gib, Amok
MattShizzle [2] UselessTwit, Don't Panic
UselessTwit

My suspicions lie mostly with DP, MZ, Matt, and Feck so I'm happy with the present vote spread.