What Republicans Do With Dead Soldiers

[maiforpeace]

Indeed...can I have your penis, stuffed, when it's no longer living?

Why wait until then?

You willing to wait until I stuff my husband's penis? We can ask it to join us.

Uhm...eh...I don't know what to do with that image, so I'm just going to go to be now and have a nice nightmare.

May it only be an anxiety dream.

[FBM]

If I'm lucky! But all in all, I think it would be worthwhile...

[Gallstones]

I just wish I didn't have to vote for a politician.
Politicians shouldn't be allowed in politics.

[maiforpeace]

I just wish I didn't have to vote for a politician.
Politicians shouldn't be allowed in politics.

I agree, especially since most of them were lawyers before they entered politics.

[Gallstones]

It doesn't really matter what they were doing, having been soldiers is irrelevant.
Regard for the dead is really regard for the family and friends.
It matters to them and they have emotional needs surrounding the disposition of the body of their dead loved one.
In the case of next of kin, there is ownership too.

However, there are situations where accommodating this ideal isn't a practical reality.
There would be compromises like mass spreading of ashes, or mass burial of asses ashes.

But burying in a land-fill is just too much.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The point is not that "it's just dead meat". That "dead meat" was someone's son or daughter fighting on behalf of their country. Even if it was just a finger, it should have been honored in some way before being disposed, and absolutely NOT in general dump.

I agree. We dug up a couple of anonymous GIs and buried them with great honors at Arlington. So why not show the same respect for the parts they gave up while on active duty?

Because it's meaningless. Would you "honour" an amputated leg if the donor was still alive? Honour and respect their memory, of course, but not by stressing over random body parts.

As I said, I don't give a toss what happens to the leftover meat when I die.

How much of that GI was found in the first place? "We mopped your son up and buried the pieces in a dump. Here's your flag and a medal. Got any more sons?"

[drl2]

Hmm, I used to work with a reservist who got called up to work at the morgue at the AFB (I'm about 30 miles north of Dover & worked in the town for a while). I think I'll track down his e-mail and see if I can very gently ask him if there's anything he can say about the accuracy of these reports...

[maiforpeace]

Hmm, I used to work with a reservist who got called up to work at the morgue at the AFB (I'm about 30 miles north of Dover & worked in the town for a while). I think I'll track down his e-mail and see if I can very gently ask him if there's anything he can say about the accuracy of these reports...

I'd also be interested to hear Ian's opinion.

[Gallstones]

Hmm, I used to work with a reservist who got called up to work at the morgue at the AFB (I'm about 30 miles north of Dover & worked in the town for a while). I think I'll track down his e-mail and see if I can very gently ask him if there's anything he can say about the accuracy of these reports...

Thank you.

[Schneibster]

They said the procedure was limited to fragments or portions of body parts that were unable to be identified at first or were later recovered from the battlefield, and which family members had said could be disposed of by the military.

Lt. Gen. Darrell G. Jones, the Air Force’s deputy chief for personnel, said the body parts were cremated, then incinerated, and then taken to a landfill by a military contractor. He likened the procedure to the disposal of medical waste.

I don't see the problem with this at all. What is the difference between throwing it in a hole in the ground and dumping it off the back of a boat?

Personally I don't care and wouldn't; once I'm dead it's meat. Soylent green me if you've got the stomach.

What bothers me is the fact that it's entirely predictable how people would feel about it, and that the people who'd feel that way are people whose loved ones gave their lives in service to the country. I don't believe in prayer but I'll shut the fuck up and stand there at graveside for my relatives' sakes, and I see no difference between the ethics of that and this, whatever the reality may be. Sending the ashes to the dump is about as disrespectful a gesture as could well be imagined other than urinating or defecating on the remains.

Maybe you don't know what a "landfill" is; it's a rubbish tip.

[Schneibster]

I'm impressed by the utter contempt of it all. Its quite breathtaking. Bet the flags didn't get dumped in the landfill though.

[Schneibster]

So what do you propose be done with a barrel of mixed goo comprising of US soldier, native and suicide bomber then?

Not send it to the dump. Figure out something respectful.

[maiforpeace]

Hmm, I used to work with a reservist who got called up to work at the morgue at the AFB (I'm about 30 miles north of Dover & worked in the town for a while). I think I'll track down his e-mail and see if I can very gently ask him if there's anything he can say about the accuracy of these reports...

Thank you.

Don't know if this means anything to you or not Gallstones, but I just heard this aired on NBC Nightly News.

And on CBS: Leon Panetta Orders Review

[Gawd]

I support putting the soldiers in the garbage dump. Soldiers are killers and are to be reviled, not worshiped.

[Schneibster]

Uh huh. What nationality soldiers do you not think that about?

Just askin'.