English is hard

[klr]

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Ever tried putting a Hebridean together with somebody from the Kerry Gaeltacht? I'm not that sure they'd communicate efficiently. Scottish Gaighlig is close enough to Donegal Gaeilge... or used to be, but I can warrant I recognize Irish from scottish on sight, and the vocabulary is distinct even for some rather basic words, not to mention large divergences in pronunciation.

Someone from the Kerry Gaeltacht might have trouble communicating with someone from the Cork Gaeltacht ...

That bad?
I know I never got my pronunciation cleaned up because I picked mannerisms from people from everywhere, so I might combine habits that normally don't belong in the speech of any single person... But I'd never have guessed that the intercomprehension barrier might exist between speakers of the same province.

You'd better believe it. There are actually huge regional variations. The only "standard" Irish is the one taught at school. Oh, and to top it all, most of the "Irish speakers" I hear use far, far too many English words. No wonder the language is in deep trouble.

Some spare fadas for Svartalf => áéíóú

EDIT: Snap! Too slow again

I claim as mitigating circumstances that I was eating cereal and also trying to watch Sir Dave on the box.

[Tero]

I just have the three, äöå, I dont spell with symbols.

[Svartalf]

The you was all the Merkins and UK folk.

Ö Ü
å ä à â á ã æ ç è é ê í ì î ï ñ ô ö ó š ù ú û ü œ
Ä É Ê
£ ¥ ¢ ¡ ψ

and you do that with alt+ascii code?
uge bother, since you have to remember the code or look it up when you want to use the charact ...
and no, the codes for alt don't match with that table you linked

[Svartalf]

That bad?
I know I never got my pronunciation cleaned up because I picked mannerisms from people from everywhere, so I might combine habits that normally don't belong in the speech of any single person... But I'd never have guessed that the intercomprehension barrier might exist between speakers of the same province.

You'd better believe it. There are actually huge regional variations. The only "standard" Irish is the one taught at school. Oh, and to top it all, most of the "Irish speakers" I hear use far, far too many English words. No wonder the language is in deep trouble.[/quote]
Uh, have you noticed just how many "official" Irish words are direct Béarla loans? If I have to put on my hata and my stocai to go for a walk in the gairdin, and I as somebody "as Béarla" when I want him to talk Englinsh... yep, the language is in deep bogland.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The you was all the Merkins and UK folk.

Ö Ü
å ä à â á ã æ ç è é ê í ì î ï ñ ô ö ó š ù ú û ü œ
Ä É Ê
£ ¥ ¢ ¡ ψ

and you do that with alt+ascii code?
uge bother, since you have to remember the code or look it up when you want to use the charact ...
and no, the codes for alt don't match with that table you linked

Oh hell no. Check the link I posted above if you want the ASCII code, but I made a file and copy them when I need them for non-USian files for Hyperwar.

[klr]

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Uh, have you noticed just how many "official" Irish words are direct Béarla loans? If I have to put on my hata and my stocai to go for a walk in the gairdin, and I as somebody "as Béarla" when I want him to talk Englinsh... yep, the language is in deep bogland.

The worst thing is, there are plenty good enough Irish words most of the time. An charr? WFT? Wasn't gluaistáin* good enough?

[Cormac]

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Uh, have you noticed just how many "official" Irish words are direct Béarla loans? If I have to put on my hata and my stocai to go for a walk in the gairdin, and I as somebody "as Béarla" when I want him to talk Englinsh... yep, the language is in deep bogland.

The worst thing is, there are plenty good enough Irish words most of the time. An charr? WFT? Wasn't gluaistáin* good enough?

Kezactly.

[Svartalf]

The you was all the Merkins and UK folk.

Ö Ü
å ä à â á ã æ ç è é ê í ì î ï ñ ô ö ó š ù ú û ü œ
Ä É Ê
£ ¥ ¢ ¡ ψ

and you do that with alt+ascii code?
uge bother, since you have to remember the code or look it up when you want to use the charact ...
and no, the codes for alt don't match with that table you linked

Oh hell no. Check the link I posted above if you want the ASCII code, but I made a file and copy them when I need them for non-USian files for Hyperwar.

Actually, I didn't know what to do with that link... the numeral codes don't match what you get if you do alt+number

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I just copied the characters into a RTF file for later use.

[Tero]

Y is completly useless, and confusing. Sometimes it is an i sometimes a j. But you don't even have the sound of yy in English, the German or Swedish or Finnish way. Like in Über. There is confusion there too, the Swedes use u for something half way between u and y. They should have borrowed Ü from the Germans.

[Jason]

At least English is better than Dutch. Crazy language with it's dipthongs and all.

Maybe we ought to communicate through allegory. After all there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.

[Pappa]

At least English is better than Dutch. Crazy language with it's dipthongs and all.

What's wrong with dipthongs?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

At least English is better than Dutch. Crazy language with it's dipthongs and all.

What's wrong with dipthongs?

They get caught in the crack of your ass.

[Schneibster]

were has some other vowel when you pronounce it

It's called a schwa: wər. Even more confusing, you'll hear "we're" corrupted into the same sound. "Wər gunnə gōdəthə stōr. Yū wanə gō?"

[Jason]

At least English is better than Dutch. Crazy language with it's dipthongs and all.

What's wrong with dipthongs?

They get caught in the crack of your ass.

They do seem a bit unnecessary sometimes.


Might as well go bare-assed.