Radioactive Wolves.

[Schneibster]

The fuel waste will be a hazard as long as it's on Earth. I say move it to the Moon.

FIFY.

Getting it there is the problem. Sounds expensive.

[Schneibster]

Why not send it on a sunward orbit? that's the ultimate in garbage incineration after all.

Sounds even more expensive than the Moon.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The fuel waste will be a hazard as long as it's on Earth. I say move it to the Moon.

Getting it there is the problem. Sounds expensive.

It would be expensive. It would also be a fix that would be independent of anything that happened on Earth.

Actually, it just has to be moving fast enough to break free of Earth. Send it above or below the plain of the solar system and let it sail out into interstellar space.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Why not send it on a sunward orbit? that's the ultimate in garbage incineration after all.

Sounds even more expensive than the Moon.

Nope, because we wouldn't have to land it on the Moon. Just get it going and let it take it's own sweet time to get there.

[Cormac]

Please excuse the typos. I'm posting from my phone, and that last one took about 20 minutes!

[Svartalf]

Given that it's to be used in a seismically stable area, and deployed away from water and wind erosion, the feat is not as incredible as it sounds.
Plus, long lasting doesn't mean impervious to wilful destruction

They're talking about making it impervious to willful destruction in case civilization falls and rises again.

All of this, of course, is intended to make the NIMBYs shut up.

And my point was and remains that taking extreme measures of this type with all of the spent fuel instead of reprocessing and only having to do it with a small fraction of the total is ridiculous. But do carry on.

No need for exceptionally tough concrete to resist attempts at piercing in case civilisation should fall... without decent metallurgy, non powered tools would have trouble demolishing even ordinary building stuff.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Please excuse the typos. I'm posting from my phone, and that last one took about 20 minutes!

I blame Edison.

[Cormac]

Why not send it on a sunward orbit? that's the ultimate in garbage incineration after all.

You crazy fool! You'll irradiate the Sun!

Bad enough we had to invent radiation here on earth and besmirched our environment with its foulness, without exporting it to the clean perfection of god's holy and pure Sun.

[Schneibster]

Well, Romans did, and it's still in perfect state 2500 years later in several places... Roman concrete floorings and foundations are often the best preserved parts of many buildings, regardless of general state, and even in thoroughly ruined buildings, said flooring often has remained intact in spite of hard, heavy things falling onto it from above and soil shifting and roots trying to dig through below.

Different kind of concrete. For starters, the Romans didn't know how to make Portland cement. Moving right along, they also didn't know about reinforcing it. Their concrete wasn't very plastic, like modern concretes are. Even given all that, the stuff has lasted two and a half thousand years in the weather. It's really tough.

[Cormac]

Please excuse the typos. I'm posting from my phone, and that last one took about 20 minutes!

I blame Edison.

Marconi surely...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Please excuse the typos. I'm posting from my phone, and that last one took about 20 minutes!

I blame Edison.

Marconi surely...

Had that for lunch.

[Schneibster]

Why not send it on a sunward orbit? that's the ultimate in garbage incineration after all.

Sounds even more expensive than the Moon.

Nope, because we wouldn't have to land it on the Moon. Just get it going and let it take it's own sweet time to get there.

I wouldn't advocate this for unreprocessed fuel. Waste? Maybe. Still sounds dangerous and expensive. Most of the expense is involved in getting it out of Earth's gravity well.

[Schneibster]

Given that it's to be used in a seismically stable area, and deployed away from water and wind erosion, the feat is not as incredible as it sounds.
Plus, long lasting doesn't mean impervious to wilful destruction

They're talking about making it impervious to willful destruction in case civilization falls and rises again.

All of this, of course, is intended to make the NIMBYs shut up.

And my point was and remains that taking extreme measures of this type with all of the spent fuel instead of reprocessing and only having to do it with a small fraction of the total is ridiculous. But do carry on.

No need for exceptionally tough concrete to resist attempts at piercing in case civilisation should fall... without decent metallurgy, non powered tools would have trouble demolishing even ordinary building stuff.

It's to satisfy the NIMBYs.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Why not send it on a sunward orbit? that's the ultimate in garbage incineration after all.

Sounds even more expensive than the Moon.

Nope, because we wouldn't have to land it on the Moon. Just get it going and let it take it's own sweet time to get there.

I wouldn't advocate this for unreprocessed fuel. Waste? Maybe. Still sounds dangerous and expensive. Most of the expense is involved in getting it out of Earth's gravity well.

It would be less dangerous than trucking it around the country.

[Cormac]

Please excuse the typos. I'm posting from my phone, and that last one took about 20 minutes!

I blame Edison.

Marconi surely...

Had that for lunch.

Mmm crunchy vacuumy tubes.