IAEA Says Iran Still Doing Nuclear Weapons Research
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IAEA Says Iran Still Doing Nuclear Weapons Research
The United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency has released a new report today stating that there is ongoing nuclear weapons research in Iran, despite repeated vehement denials from its government. 10 countries provided the intelligence used, which was "vetted," that is, confirmed or discarded, over a period of many months. In addition, the report details modifications to the Iranian Shahab-3 missile to permit it to carry a nuclear payload. The Shahab-3 has enough range to reach Israel.
The supposed decommissioning of the program in 2003 in response to the dictates of the religious council that rules Iran appears to have been a sham, with individuals concerned with the missile redesign, with explosives research needed to construct an implosion weapon, with an underground chamber for conducting the research and collecting data, and with increased enhancement of uranium to make the core of an implosion weapon, being transferred to different positions and shielded from further contact with IAEA personnel. There is evidence not only of ongoing research, but of a sophisticated effort to conceal that there is still research.
An early report may be read here. I expect I'll be linking more information in the coming days; first priority is a link to the report itself.
The supposed decommissioning of the program in 2003 in response to the dictates of the religious council that rules Iran appears to have been a sham, with individuals concerned with the missile redesign, with explosives research needed to construct an implosion weapon, with an underground chamber for conducting the research and collecting data, and with increased enhancement of uranium to make the core of an implosion weapon, being transferred to different positions and shielded from further contact with IAEA personnel. There is evidence not only of ongoing research, but of a sophisticated effort to conceal that there is still research.
An early report may be read here. I expect I'll be linking more information in the coming days; first priority is a link to the report itself.
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Re: IAEA Says Iran Still Doing Nuclear Weapons Research
There is nothing wrong with Iran having nukes. Unlike Israel, Iran isn't an aggressor.
And are these the same guys who "vetted" American unintelligence on Iraq?
And are these the same guys who "vetted" American unintelligence on Iraq?
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Re: IAEA Says Iran Still Doing Nuclear Weapons Research
Other than Hezb'Allah, hmmm?Gawd wrote:There is nothing wrong with Iran having nukes. Unlike Israel, Iran isn't an aggressor.
On Earth.
No, there was an election since then.Gawd wrote:And are these the same guys who "vetted" American unintelligence on Iraq?
There was one in Iran, too, but apparently they cheated.
Just sayin'.
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What's to be done? Western intervention risks calamity but on the other hand, if you see a child playing with matches, you have to take the matches away.
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Good question. Blowing shit up never seems to fix stuff like this. Funny that. Maybe they'll have to negotiate.
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Re: IAEA Says Iran Still Doing Nuclear Weapons Research
Mmmm. Playing a North Korea style game - upping the ante in an attempt to wring concessions out of the west. I can't see it ending particularly well.Schneibster wrote:Good question. Blowing shit up never seems to fix stuff like this. Funny that. Maybe they'll have to negotiate.
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They may be trying to get everything they can out of it before they go off and build them anyway. It's consistent with their behavior toward their own people in the elections.
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Why are you talking about Israel?Schneibster wrote:They may be trying to get everything they can out of it before they go off and build them anyway. It's consistent with their behavior toward their own people in the elections.
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That's not a report it's a news story without citations. Regardless it is hyperbolic bullshit - pure propaganda. They have no evidence.Schneibster wrote:The United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency has released a new report today stating that there is ongoing nuclear weapons research in Iran, despite repeated vehement denials from its government. 10 countries provided the intelligence used, which was "vetted," that is, confirmed or discarded, over a period of many months. In addition, the report details modifications to the Iranian Shahab-3 missile to permit it to carry a nuclear payload. The Shahab-3 has enough range to reach Israel.
The supposed decommissioning of the program in 2003 in response to the dictates of the religious council that rules Iran appears to have been a sham, with individuals concerned with the missile redesign, with explosives research needed to construct an implosion weapon, with an underground chamber for conducting the research and collecting data, and with increased enhancement of uranium to make the core of an implosion weapon, being transferred to different positions and shielded from further contact with IAEA personnel. There is evidence not only of ongoing research, but of a sophisticated effort to conceal that there is still research.
An early report may be read here. I expect I'll be linking more information in the coming days; first priority is a link to the report itself.
Amusingly having nuclear weapons is considered 'not peaceful'. I assume this extends to non-Arabic states as well?

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I have to say that I agree with Gawd here. (To an extent).
Iran is bolloxed because of the tyranny there, but Israel is a belligerent aggressor, with, I might add, nuclear weapons.
I am just as concerned about Israel's Arsenal as I am about Iran's.
Iran is bolloxed because of the tyranny there, but Israel is a belligerent aggressor, with, I might add, nuclear weapons.
I am just as concerned about Israel's Arsenal as I am about Iran's.
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What's the CIA think? Last I heard they said Iran wasn't going for a nuclear bomb.
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Last report I read said they wouldn't have the capability to produce a nukehead until 2020 at the earliest with 2025 being the best estimate and that there were no indications they were doing so anyway.
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Re: IAEA Says Iran Still Doing Nuclear Weapons Research
Then I wonder what those Jews are up to then.PordFrefect wrote:Last report I read said they wouldn't have the capability to produce a nukehead until 2020 at the earliest with 2025 being the best estimate and that there were no indications they were doing so anyway.
Do they really believe Iran is close to getting a nuke or is Israel just trying to set us up for another proxy war?
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It's a way of crashing the dollar and declaring martial law in the USA to keep the lunatic tea party out of the White House. A bad, but necessary medicine, that you'll only realise is 'bitter but good' if some faction of the US military in the south join with the xian rednecks down there and start to round atheists up there as enemies of the state? 

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I'm not going to argue with someone who dismisses evidence. It's a waste of time.PordFrefect wrote:That's not a report it's a news story without citations. Regardless it is hyperbolic bullshit - pure propaganda. They have no evidence.Schneibster wrote:The United Nations' International Atomic Energy Agency has released a new report today stating that there is ongoing nuclear weapons research in Iran, despite repeated vehement denials from its government. 10 countries provided the intelligence used, which was "vetted," that is, confirmed or discarded, over a period of many months. In addition, the report details modifications to the Iranian Shahab-3 missile to permit it to carry a nuclear payload. The Shahab-3 has enough range to reach Israel.
The supposed decommissioning of the program in 2003 in response to the dictates of the religious council that rules Iran appears to have been a sham, with individuals concerned with the missile redesign, with explosives research needed to construct an implosion weapon, with an underground chamber for conducting the research and collecting data, and with increased enhancement of uranium to make the core of an implosion weapon, being transferred to different positions and shielded from further contact with IAEA personnel. There is evidence not only of ongoing research, but of a sophisticated effort to conceal that there is still research.
An early report may be read here. I expect I'll be linking more information in the coming days; first priority is a link to the report itself.
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